Where's there's smoke...

[Chris22]

It's all smoke and mirrors.
Danny is waiting for Philly to cave.
He will wait until the end of training camp if necessary.

[wdleehi]

It's all smoke and mirrors.
Danny is waiting for Philly to cave.
He will wait until the end of training camp if necessary.

I have never seen Ainge as a wait for just one guy GM.   I have no doubt he is working on multiple teams with the hope of being successful with just one. 

[LilRip]

In recent memory, it's been very rare for a trade to be reported weeks in advance before it actually happened. The trades that usually go down come out of nowhere.

At this point, I'd be surprised if we landed Griffin, Westbrook, Butler or Okafor and be less surprised if we landed Anthony Davis.

[jay]

Trade all of our young players plus 2 Nets picks and they might consider Davis. I'm not sure they accept. Probably take Brown too.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ztj5x75



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Bench: Asik, Yabu, Mickey, Bentil, RJ, Young, Jackson,

[Surferdad]

In recent memory, it's been very rare for a trade to be reported weeks in advance before it actually happened. The trades that usually go down come out of nowhere.

At this point, I'd be surprised if we landed Griffin, Westbrook, Butler or Okafor and be less surprised if we landed Anthony Davis.

Really...I think a deal for AD is not too likely.  Of all those players (and throw in Love too), I see Okafor as the most feasible to get done (and therefore I would be least surprised), even though he is probably the least desirable of that group.

[mef730]

In recent memory, it's been very rare for a trade to be reported weeks in advance before it actually happened. The trades that usually go down come out of nowhere.

At this point, I'd be surprised if we landed Griffin, Westbrook, Butler or Okafor and be less surprised if we landed Anthony Davis.

Really...I think a deal for AD is not too likely.  Of all those players (and throw in Love too), I see Okafor as the most feasible to get done (and therefore I would be least surprised), even though he is probably the least desirable of that group.

Methinks the chance of getting a trade for any player done is inversely proportional to the desirability of the best player that changes hands.

Mike

[Surferdad]

In recent memory, it's been very rare for a trade to be reported weeks in advance before it actually happened. The trades that usually go down come out of nowhere.

At this point, I'd be surprised if we landed Griffin, Westbrook, Butler or Okafor and be less surprised if we landed Anthony Davis.

Really...I think a deal for AD is not too likely.  Of all those players (and throw in Love too), I see Okafor as the most feasible to get done (and therefore I would be least surprised), even though he is probably the least desirable of that group.

Methinks the chance of getting a trade for any player done is inversely proportional to the desirability of the best player that changes hands.

Mike

Good summary, TP.

[CoachBo]

Why on earth would New Orleans move Davis when they just signed him?

There's less than zero chance Davis ends up in Boston. Ever.

[kraidstar]

Brooklyn's free agency implosion has given those picks more value than ever, imminent value - the Barclay's Center might as well have big green skull signs on the side, that place is toxic.

Somebody has to be drooling over those picks.

Normally I would say a club like the Clippers would never trade away Blake Griffin unless it was for a better player.

But we could offer them excellent and cheap defensive-minded role-players + cap/tax relief for the present, and the promise of a star or two for the future. We can also offer them back their own pick, which is huge, as it would give them flexibility and insurance.

We can likewise offer plenty of youth if the Thunder opt for a full rebuild.

We have expirings, vets, prospects, picks, we could even clear up cap space if we really needed to.

Our flexibility is putting us in a position of strength. Someone will bite.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Why on earth would New Orleans move Davis when they just signed him?

There's less than zero chance Davis ends up in Boston. Ever.

Ever Is a strong word. He might have dreamed of being a celtic for all we know.

[D Dub]

Brooklyn's free agency implosion has given those picks more value than ever, imminent value - the Barclay's Center might as well have big green skull signs on the side, that place is toxic.

Somebody has to be drooling over those picks.

Normally I would say a club like the Clippers would never trade away Blake Griffin unless it was for a better player.

But we could offer them excellent and cheap defensive-minded role-players + cap/tax relief for the present, and the promise of a star or two for the future. We can also offer them back their own pick, which is huge, as it would give them flexibility and insurance.

We can likewise offer plenty of youth if the Thunder opt for a full rebuild.

We have expirings, vets, prospects, picks, we could even clear up cap space if we really needed to.

Our flexibility is putting us in a position of strength. Someone will bite.

it takes two to tango, and Danny clearly isn't dealing this pick. 

it's only frustrating if you put more faith in twitter rumors than you do our head coach.  I'm sure Stevens LOVES the idea of hand picking these top tier draftees and playing the long game.  it's how he's always operated as a basketball coach.  my impression is that Danny is more than willing to strike, but has so much respect for Brad, that his word carries the most weight in the room. 

[droopdog7]

Why on earth would New Orleans move Davis when they just signed him?

There's less than zero chance Davis ends up in Boston. Ever.

I think people are missing the point.  Yes, very unlikely, virtually zero chance that Davis is traded to the Celtics. 

So that tells you what the poster thinks of the chances that we end up with all the names that have been thrown out there already.

[kraidstar]

Brooklyn's free agency implosion has given those picks more value than ever, imminent value - the Barclay's Center might as well have big green skull signs on the side, that place is toxic.

Somebody has to be drooling over those picks.

Normally I would say a club like the Clippers would never trade away Blake Griffin unless it was for a better player.

But we could offer them excellent and cheap defensive-minded role-players + cap/tax relief for the present, and the promise of a star or two for the future. We can also offer them back their own pick, which is huge, as it would give them flexibility and insurance.

We can likewise offer plenty of youth if the Thunder opt for a full rebuild.

We have expirings, vets, prospects, picks, we could even clear up cap space if we really needed to.

Our flexibility is putting us in a position of strength. Someone will bite.

it takes two to tango, and Danny clearly isn't dealing this pick. 

it's only frustrating if you put more faith in twitter rumors than you do our head coach.  I'm sure Stevens LOVES the idea of hand picking these top tier draftees and playing the long game.  it's how he's always operated as a basketball coach.  my impression is that Danny is more than willing to strike, but has so much respect for Brad, that his word carries the most weight in the room.

Ownership has repeatedly stated that they want to make a big splash and acquire stars through free agency or trades. They get frequently blasted here and in the Boston media for those remarks, and you can bet Wyc would like to make good on them at some point.

Wyc cares about the prestige of the franchise, and wants to maintain a high profile.  It also doesn't hurt that stars also bring in more ticket sales.

While I don't doubt that Stevens is fine with drafting and and developing guys, I also think he'd love to coach guys like Westbrook and Griffin (personally I'm not as high on Griffin as some, but he's clearly better than what we have).

From what we've heard there's good communication in this organization between front office and coaching staff regarding personnel moves. But regardless of Stevens' beliefs, Ainge and ownership are going to make a deal if they feel it's in the best interests of the team. That's their job, and they've shown in the past they're willing to take gambles or make unpopular moves. GMs who are too conservative get fired.

If the deal is right they'll pull the trigger.

[kraidstar]

Why on earth would New Orleans move Davis when they just signed him?

There's less than zero chance Davis ends up in Boston. Ever.

Ever Is a strong word. He might have dreamed of being a celtic for all we know.

It helps that the Pels are a dumpster fire. They just never seem to make the right moves. If they hadn't gotten lucky (?) and won the lottery for Davis they'd have literally nothing.

Davis is under contract until the 2020-2021 season, when he is 28, but that last year is a player option. The Pels will try to build a team around him for the next few years.They struck out this year. I see them making their typically bad moves and sucking up their cap space with mediocre guys like Cleveland did during Lebron's first tenure there.

Fast-forward a few seasons.

The player option in '20-'21 is for $27M. The cap by then will offer a far higher annual salary, so he will almost certainly opt out. He stands to make a ton more money even from a team that doesn't have his bird rights.

So that 2019-2020 season is key. If the Pels have failed to put a good team around him by then I could see him getting disgruntled and threatening to leave. They might cut their losses and trade him for a king's ransom.

So no, it's not beyond the realm of possibility at all to land Davis, just not right now. By 2020 we might be a contender, and an even more desirable destination for him.

[Eja117]

.....there's lying media trying to sell advertising space.

Never thought I'd see 40 year old unvetted accusations against dead coaches make the news, but here we are.