Sporting News: C's targeting Griffin, will make major deal soon

[The Rondo Show]

Still really skeptical.

[SparzWizard]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

Perhaps that's where he originates from thus his location is set there by default? I'm not sure.

[hwangjini_1]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

interesting if true.

bradley i love, but rozier makes him less crucial to the celtics.

amir is included for salary reasons, and, again, horford and griffin make he less valuable to the celtics.

the 2018 nets pick is the key to getting griffin. while it hurts, i am delighted that the celtics keep the 2017 pick. that is going to be a great draft with lots of great players. or, ainge may use that pick in another trade.

all in all, both sides get something of value. oh, and the celtics now have roster space for the kids. 

[RJ87]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

That's that Smitty guy from RealGM... Don't know who this guy is but he's been talking for a few days now about nonsense.

[kozlodoev]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

Perhaps that's where he originates from thus his location is set there by default? I'm not sure.

Nah, that was the other dude (Smitty). This guy was our own hack.

[Monkhouse]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

Waiting for a reputable source... I mean this sounds way too good to be true, and what happened to the Clippers getting someone like Gay? Maybe the allure of having Johnson's contract flexibility in the future would've been far more useful.

[kozlodoev]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

That's that Smitty guy from RealGM... Don't know who this guy is but he's been talking for a few days now about nonsense.

But he did take a minute to thank everyone for taking him to 11,000 followers.

[celticsclay]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

the nonstop skepticism doesn't really add anything. I think everyone gets this is not super likely, but it is harmless fun on a slow news day to think about a hypothetical trade. Why the need to constantly mock the exercise?

[Snakehead]

WE GOT HIM! HOLY ****!

[dang], we gave away AB.

[LooseCannon]

It sounds like the Clippers want multiple quality players who fit a win-now perspective and Ainge is looking for a third team to give him a player that Doc wants in exchange for draft considerations.

I would look at something like the Clippers giving up Griffin and getting Avery Bradley, Rudy Gay, and Kosta Koufos, then figuring out who else needs to be included the make the salary cap math work and adding in whatever picks are needed.  I'd try to see if there is a better player than Rudy Gay who might be available.

[SHAQATTACK]

Crowder, rozier and nets 2017

Please dont include brown ,ko or smart

Smart is Danny s new right hand man.   I think he has surpassed even KO and AB and IT on the most loved player list.

Right now I could only think of a very few players DA would trade off Smart to get.

[kozlodoev]

UNVERIFIED REPORT:

According to this guy Mike, there is an agreement:

Deadmik3™ ‏@StonewallSieve  9s9 seconds ago Watertown, MA
#Griffin to the #Celtics for Johnson, Bradley & the 2018 Brooklyn Nets pick. Details are being fine-tuned. Expect official announcement soon

Take it for what it's worth.

I thought this guy was in Las Vegas for "scout school", and he's now posting from Watertown, MA? LOL

the nonstop skepticism doesn't really add anything. I think everyone gets this is not super likely, but it is harmless fun on a slow news day to think about a hypothetical trade. Why the need to constantly mock the exercise?

It adds fun. For me. I think hacks like this one aren't mocked even nearly enough around here these days.

[Evantime34]

Thoughts on this
1. I'm extremely skeptical of a report that on one hand says a deal is close and on the other indicates we won't give up a Brooklyn pick. I just don't believe we can get a deal done without a least one Brooklyn pick.

2. The idea of Rudy Gay as part of the deal makes me happy. If LAC adds Gay then I think there is a higher chance we can keep Crowder

3. I expect Bradley to be the best player we trade away, maybe I'm reading too much into the fact that he didn't come to the Durant or the Horford meeting.

4. The C's can create around $12.5 MM in cap space by sending Zizic and Yabu overseas, pulling Zeller's QO and waiving John Holland. I think this could play a factor in a deal.

5. People are sleeping on Blake. We haven't had anyone like him in transition in a long time. He's a plus rebounder which we need (his numbers have recently dipped due to playing with DeAndre). Griffin can handle the ball, create for others and is probably better than any player on the C's in the pick and roll since I've been alive. He's underrated on the defensive end becauseh e came into the league as a poor defender.

6. Here is a trade I think makes sense for everyone, I'm not sure which picks we would need to send where though
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j2m953n

Agree with most everyhting here Evantime... a few additions/departures:

1. While LAC would love to get a BKN #1 -- their window is now (and their GM is in win-now mode) so I don't think it's inconceivable that they value quantity/quality of players coming back over "the future".

2. For SAC I think they'd be fine largely to just move on from Gay, but would be smart to clear "bad" contracts or redundant players off their books for the trouble of helping out. Though their front office isn't the most dynamic, so who knows.

Therefore I'm curious if something like this wouldn't satifsy all parties:

LAC IN: Rudy Gay, Avery Bradley, Jonas Jerebko, LAC 2019 #1, LAC 2017 #2
LAC OUT: Blake Griffin, Paul Pierce

Bradley might a bit redundant, but maybe LAC then moves JJ Reddick or flips Bradley for a backup big and a future #1; they shore up the SF spot, and add flexibility to go with more 3 guard (CP, JJ, AB) lineups with either a traditional big (Speights, Brice Johnson) at 4 or guys like Gay/Jerebko the 4 with DeAndre.

SAC IN: Terry Rozier, Amir Johnson, James Young, RJ Hunter, BOS 2018 or 2019 #1
SAC OUT: Rudy Gay, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore

IMO LAC and SAC could swap out some combo of Bradley/Rozier/Amir/Jerebko. I think LAC would value getting a bench and SAC would like a good young PG (where they only have Collison) and clear out playing time for Afflalo and Richardson by dealing McLemore and get Koufos' redundant salary off their books.

BOS IN: Griffin, Koufos, McLemore, Pierce
BOS OUT: Bradley, Amir, Rozier, Young, Hunter, BOS 2018 or 2019 #1, LAC 2019 #1, LAC 2017 #2



Other poss. pieces to include:

-- MIN 2017 #2
-- 2017 swap: This is just an idea... but PHI has the right to swap picks with SAC next year. We could propose that (say Top 2 protected) SAC has the right to swap with us AFTER PHI exercises thier right. The worst we'd end up with is PHI or SAC's pick... neither will be much worse than BKN's if we protect it top 2, but it's a little incentive for SAC. Maybe too big a gamble for us -- but better than moving the BKN pick altogether.

I like your trade, I think giving away that many young pieces is the only way we can avoid giving up a Brooklyn pick.

As to them being in win now mode and not having a need for picks, picks are the most fungible assets in the NBA. The Brooklyn pick is probably much easier to move in a future trade to replace Blake's star power than a bunch of smaller value young players.

[Jiri Welsch]

Just clarifying the tweet I posted:

This guy apparently has a friend who works with the Celtics, and is not Keith Smith from RealGM.

He's pretty self-effacing about his "insider" status and is just posting what he's hearing.

[Roy H.]

Just clarifying the tweet I posted:

This guy apparently has a friend who works with the Celtics, and is not Keith Smith from RealGM.

He's pretty self-effacing about his "insider" status and is just posting what he's hearing.

I'm pretty sure his friend would have been fired by now. The Celts are notoriously tight-lipped.