'Rozier vs. Smart' Debate - An Interesting perspective

[Celtic_Pride777]

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2016/07/07/who-has-more-potential-marcus-smart-or-terry-rozier/

Nice read!

[Eja117]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Good stuff. Almost started a thread on this exact topic yesterday.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Obviously someone doesn't know CARMELO!

[D Dub]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

Nah, Marcus is pretty good.   Defends anyone.   Who else can defend LITERALLY anyone?

Problem is, Roze is good too.   This has been his thing throughout his short career.  He gets compared to the *potential* of lotto pick players.   Thing that is confounding -- as I see it -- he's better NOW than a lot of of these lotto players project.   Not sure if he's caught Smart yet, but it's certainly up for debate. 

[Beat LA]

Just going off of the title of the article, neither is a point guard nor a good decision maker, but at least Rozier can dribble, I guess . There's just not much of a bar, there, lol .

[dreamgreen]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

Nah, Marcus is pretty good.   Defends anyone.   Who else can defend LITERALLY anyone?

Problem is, Roze is good too.   This has been his thing throughout his short career.  He gets compared to the *potential* of lotto pick players.   Thing that is confounding -- as I see it -- he's better NOW than a lot of of these lotto players project.   Not sure if he's caught Smart yet, but it's certainly up for debate.

This is how these stories start lol, year from now he will have shut down every center in the league.

Don't forget there is that other side of the court also, the one where half the game is played on.

[2short]

I actually think as things progress it is going to be more a Bradley vs Rozier debate.  Avery has worked to improve his game every year but that said he's got limits and is an undersized Sg.   
Very good defender.  Smart great defender who can handle bigger guards.  Rozier very good defender but too soon to see if he can do it at nba level.
I for one am loving our FOUR guard rotation for upcoming season.  IT and Bradley subbing in Smart and Rozier. 

[mctyson]

They are not the same player and I would argue don't play the same position.  There is no debate.

[Eja117]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

Nah, Marcus is pretty good.   Defends anyone.   Who else can defend LITERALLY anyone?

Problem is, Roze is good too.   This has been his thing throughout his short career.  He gets compared to the *potential* of lotto pick players.   Thing that is confounding -- as I see it -- he's better NOW than a lot of of these lotto players project.   Not sure if he's caught Smart yet, but it's certainly up for debate.

Yeah but anyone can defend him. Literally anyone. D League guys. College guys. Top level high school guys. Anyone. Just back off him and dare him to shoot. Then box out. Rebound coming your way. Now he's defending you. Pass the ball. Now he's not defending you.

[Celtic_Pride777]

I for one am loving our FOUR guard rotation for upcoming season.  IT and Bradley subbing in Smart and Rozier.

Honestly, if we could keep all our guards, that would be a pretty deadly rotation!!!! But Philly is gonna want a player on our roster, and not just the picks (especially if they are non-BRKYLN picks, which they very well shouldn't be!)

Maybe the question Danny should be asking is, is Okafor even worth it?

[Beat LA]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

Nah, Marcus is pretty good.   Defends anyone.   Who else can defend LITERALLY anyone?

Problem is, Roze is good too.   This has been his thing throughout his short career.  He gets compared to the *potential* of lotto pick players.   Thing that is confounding -- as I see it -- he's better NOW than a lot of of these lotto players project.   Not sure if he's caught Smart yet, but it's certainly up for debate.

Yeah but anyone can defend him. Literally anyone. D League guys. College guys. Top level high school guys. Anyone. Just back off him and dare him to shoot. Then box out. Rebound coming your way. Now he's defending you. Pass the ball. Now he's not defending you.

Lol, yeah, we could do that...or, you know, just for fun, we could flop without shame . I think that that would be much more fun, ahaha .

[alldaboston]

I'll give Marcus the benefit of the doubt till now. He's been playing off ball way too much with Turner in the fold. Now that he's gone, Marcus finally gets time on the ball. If he figures it out, great. If he doesn't, I'm confident Terry can. Terry is looking really good in summer league, and had flashes in the regular season and postseason.

[D Dub]

Can we please recognize the entire reason we are having this conversation is that up till now Smart has been a bust?

Any half way decent guard would be forcing this conversation at this point because Smart has simply not lived up to expectations.  He needs to come back with an offensive game about 300% better than he was last year to make this conversation go away.

Nah, Marcus is pretty good.   Defends anyone.   Who else can defend LITERALLY anyone?

Problem is, Roze is good too.   This has been his thing throughout his short career.  He gets compared to the *potential* of lotto pick players.   Thing that is confounding -- as I see it -- he's better NOW than a lot of of these lotto players project.   Not sure if he's caught Smart yet, but it's certainly up for debate.

This is how these stories start lol, year from now he will have shut down every center in the league.

Don't forget there is that other side of the court also, the one where half the game is played on.

No arguement on the O side of things.  He apparently can't even throw a basketball in the ocean while standing on the beach at high tide...

Not my point. 
 
My point is, from the Zinger to Westbrook to Harden to Milsap --- dude can shut down quite a variety of players.   There are maybe 5-6 guys league wide who can guard 1-5 and he's one of them.   That alone is worth patience.

[Scintan]

Terrible article