Jordan Mickey?

[walker834]

Isn't he going to be better than Amir? I don't understand why we feel like we need to pay guys millions when we have Mickey who is better. Our roster is pretty weird in general that way.  Shouldn't Mickey be a player who gets time this year?  Even Yabusele and Bentil and guys like that could actually become better than KO or Jerebko.  Probably farther off.

Our roster has a lot of redundancy that way with more developmental guys.  Mickey still has some quirks in his game and is a developmental project but is a potentially better amir johnson.

Mickey may still be a year away?

[mr. dee]

The roster is not yet finalized. We have yet to see what Mickey brings in the table outside the small sample. If any of Zeller/Sully/Amir/Jerebko are gone, we'll probably see Mickey with more than solid minutes from him.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Honestly, you have to get your mind off La La Land. And I don't mean this in a bad way, I'm glad you happily support our guys and our prospects and what not, but this whole idea of our young guys being "better" on your said so, despite having very limited NBA experience, if NBA experience at all, it's what's hard to understand here.

If Mickey is indeed better, he'll get his turn. That's bottom line, until then you look for players who, you know, can actually play in the NBA.

[TheSundanceKid]

Guaranteeing the Amir and Jonas deals are more about the salary matching than stopping young guys I think. Now that Mickey is in his second year I think we'll see him earn some time. Especially with Sully and Zeller moving on the big rotation will be Amir, Horford, KO and Mickey with Zizic as the 5th big if he comes over.

The value of keeping Amir and JJ now is if a trade comes up for Cousins or Griffin or someone like that we can send two serviceable players the other way without giving up our core to match salaries

[walker834]

Honestly, you have to get your mind off La La Land. And I don't mean this in a bad way, I'm glad you happily support our guys and our prospects and what not, but this whole idea of our young guys being "better" on your said so, despite having very limited NBA experience, if NBA experience at all, it's what's hard to understand here.

If Mickey is indeed better, he'll get his turn. That's bottom line, until then you look for players who, you know, can actually play in the NBA.

That's not what I said though.  I realize Mickey is developing still. Our roster is set up where Amir has another year on his deal that way.  Mickey may still need another year of development but as far as talent level and as a prospect he's pretty similar to Amir. Better shot blocker.  We need rim protection and Mickey has higher upside that way.

Amir is obviously the more experienced guy there and developed player.  But Mickey really as far as skillset and talent level is a similar player.

Ainge set it up that way purposely imo where Amir's deal would be expiring around the time Mickey would be ready.  I don't mean  that in some conspiring way. I more mean it in he actually did that because it's just smart.

We needed some extra rim protection. He drafted Mickey to develop and signed Amir short term that offseason. He isn't committed to either of them overly.

[positivitize]

Isn't he going to be better than Amir?

I don't understand why we feel like we need to pay guys millions when we have Mickey who is better.

Mickey may still be a year away?

I'm not really sure what you are arguing. Maybe this inconsistency is why people are misinterpreting you.

[walker834]

I was just watching footage of Mickey and he's a really good rim protector. He has some warts in his offense game still though but looks like he can contribute soon.  I was more questioning whether he will be ready this year or not from watching footage of him in the d-league. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-yjOS6ipw

He looks better than Amir to me though, but I was just questioning that somewhat. 

I was just saying why do we have to pay a guy 11 mil when we have a guy in the d-league who is better?  And was then questioning whether maybe he's still a year away or something.

I guess having both doesn't hurt but our roster is somewhat weird that way.

[RockinRyA]

Im a Mickey supporter but BETTER THAN AMIR? He may end up being better in the future, but now, a big NO.

[kozlodoev]

Isn't he going to be better than Amir? I don't understand why we feel like we need to pay guys millions when we have Mickey who is better. Our roster is pretty weird in general that way.  Shouldn't Mickey be a player who gets time this year?  Even Yabusele and Bentil and guys like that could actually become better than KO or Jerebko.  Probably farther off.

Perhaps because he isn't better?

[nickagneta]

Your problem is you are watching footage of Mickey playing in the NBDL as compared to Amir who starts for a team in the NBA. Mickey is not better than Amir. Mickey has to develop just about every skill he has because the only one he has shown that is at an NBA level is shot blocking. He's looked completely lost at the offensive and defensive end whenever given minutes in the NBA.

If Mickey improves his game by a major amount, he will be seeing rotation minutes. If not he will be spending another season in the D-League while only getting spot minutes on the Celtics. He is just too raw at this point.

[walker834]

Isn't he going to be better than Amir? I don't understand why we feel like we need to pay guys millions when we have Mickey who is better. Our roster is pretty weird in general that way.  Shouldn't Mickey be a player who gets time this year?  Even Yabusele and Bentil and guys like that could actually become better than KO or Jerebko.  Probably farther off.

Perhaps because he isn't better?

Well he's depth right now.  He's 3rd string. 

[walker834]

Your problem is you are watching footage of Mickey playing in the NBDL as compared to Amir who starts for a team in the NBA. Mickey is not better than Amir. Mickey has to develop just about every skill he has because the only one he has shown that is at an NBA level is shot blocking. He's looked completely lost at the offensive and defensive end whenever given minutes in the NBA.

If Mickey improves his game by a major amount, he will be seeing rotation minutes. If not he will be spending another season in the D-League while only getting spot minutes on the Celtics. He is just too raw at this point.

I understand this stuff. That's not what I was saying. I think our roster is set up that way for a reason and have been saying this stuff all along.  Some of what I was saying was sarcasm and just noticing the difference in contract amounts and that we can potentially move some of our guys and bring up a guy like Mickey possibly and have interchangeable parts that way.

[mr. dee]

I was just watching footage of Mickey and he's a really good rim protector. He has some warts in his offense game still though but looks like he can contribute soon.  I was more questioning whether he will be ready this year or not from watching footage of him in the d-league. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-yjOS6ipw

He looks better than Amir to me though, but I was just questioning that somewhat. 

I was just saying why do we have to pay a guy 11 mil when we have a guy in the d-league who is better?  And was then questioning whether maybe he's still a year away or something.

I guess having both doesn't hurt but our roster is somewhat weird that way.

Any decent player on the NBA would look good against D-league competition. That said, I'm optimistic about Mickey, especially now with Horford on board. Al gonna show the ropes on the young bigs on this team.

[walker834]

Mickey is 3rd string right now.  It's no different than James young. I get this stuff.  Our roster makes perfect sense to me that way, but I was just saying we have interchangeable parts where we can replace some of these guys down the road and upgrade our roster at the same time. We also have some added rim protection in the d-league if we want to play Mickey this year.  There is no guarantee for any of these guys and it's added competition but some of these guys like Mickey may get a shot before Yab does or Bentil.  That's all debateable right now.

[kozlodoev]

Isn't he going to be better than Amir? I don't understand why we feel like we need to pay guys millions when we have Mickey who is better. Our roster is pretty weird in general that way.  Shouldn't Mickey be a player who gets time this year?  Even Yabusele and Bentil and guys like that could actually become better than KO or Jerebko.  Probably farther off.

Perhaps because he isn't better?

Well he's depth right now.  He's 3rd string.

Remember, the Celtics chose to leave him in the DL, so they didn't think he was better than any of the bigs they had on the active roster last season. Maybe he'll make his case in LV, hopefully his shoulder is ok.