Jordan Mickey?

[walker834]

I meant better than Amir down the road sorry.  Amir is a good rim protector too, but Mickey seems to have more upside that way.  I was questioning that somewhat as well.  Amir is good and an NBA level player  I get that.   

Who do you think will be better ultimately?  I think mickey potentially has more upside but was questioning that. That's all I was saying.

[CoachBo]

People constantly assume that strong summer league and D-League performances translate directly to the association.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

That's why obsessing over the summer league is time from your life you'll never get back. Summer league means absolutely nothing, and the D-League just a tad more than nothing.

[dreamgreen]

Hard to get giddy over Mickey when he's not even playing summer league.

[BudweiserCeltic]

People constantly assume that strong summer league and D-League performances translate directly to the association.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

That's why obsessing over the summer league is time from your life you'll never get back. Summer league means absolutely nothing, and the D-League just a tad more than nothing.

This. Fun to imagine what it could be, be hopeful of what some players might become... but sadly (in incredibly most cases), far from what it actually is.

[walker834]

Well that was why I asked.  People assume people think  things they don't so whatever. I wasn't giddy over mickey.  It was a ?

Thanks for assuming I'm stupid though.  Great talking to you!

[walker834]

Some of these guys are going to come up eventually.  I was more just saying we don't have to pay Amir that forever possibly. I was questioning whether Mickey was good enough to do that possibly this year.

I get that we signed Amir because he is an NBA level rim protector.  But we drafted Mickey to develop as that.

he's much cheaper.  I don't care if it's d-league I'm looking at his talent level.  I've also watched Amir and realize he is a much more seasoned guy like that.

Amir is an NBA level rim protector. But Mickey is much cheaper and has similar potential if not better long term.

He has warts to his game.  He's how old? But in order to become a seasoned pro he is going to have to play in the pro's ultimately.

I get we are developing guys and it's set up that way where he can be a 3rd stringer and that's what the d-league is for, but ultimately the goal is not to have him there forever I would think.

Looking at footage he is not that far off.

[walker834]

Mickey gets to go up against Amir on occasion I would guess. If Amir is eating him for lunch that's different obviously. 

[billysan]

Interesting discussion, I guess that Mickey and Amir are contingency plans to cover our interior defense until we sign draft or trade for a guy we will put there long term. I will guarantee that Danny is looking every day and working to add  an interior player with some length and defensive ability. We really need a player like Ezeli or Okafor but Danny is trying to get the best value for the long term.

Right now the only one with both on our roster is Horford. Amir has some but is not quite the guy he used to be due to physical limitations so he is our second best. Mickey has physical skills but lacks the length. This is somewhat compensated by his extra long wingspan but is still a shortcoming for this role.

We are still looking. Using pieces until we find one. We can hope for Zizic but that's down the road.

[walker834]

Yeah that's more what I was saying. I guess if you read what I said the wording sort of sounds like something else. There is no tone this way.  But was more trying to point out and try to figure out  if Mickey will play this year.

We can really save ourselves 11 million dollars though by the way the roster is set up.  We need Amir now, but we get someone else we don't necessarily.  Also if Mickey develops , we don't need Amir either.

Not knocking Amir either.  He's very good.  He gets paid 11 mil because he is an nba level rim protector and he's worth it compared to a lot of guys.

By save 11 million dollars, I more mean open that money up to spend elsewhere and on better talent.  That talent has to be there to spend on though.

There are ways with the rising cap where we can get in position to add 2 max players again though vs 1.

[Bobshot]

Mickey has yet to get on the court consistently, so we don't know what he can do. I hope he isn't one of those guys who is always hurt.

[walker834]

Supposedly his shoulder injury isn't serious

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/stevens-mickey-shoulder-injury-it-doesnt-look-subluxation

I hear what you are saying though. Some of these young guys seem to always get hurt. 

STevens also kind of answers my question at the end there.

“The idea behind summer league when we first got together before the draft, is for Jordan to get a lot of time,” Stevens said.  “And for Jordan to get a lot of opportunity.”

That's kind of what I expected.  He's hurt though.

[SHAQATTACK]

Mickey has yet to get on the court consistently, so we don't know what he can do. I hope he isn't one of those guys who is always hurt.

Young guys seem to get hurt often these days .   Lordy...KO and Smart have been banged up seems like half the time they have been here .  AB was always in surgery .  Exum went down quick .....Randle too .

Right off the bat Simmons and Brown were mildly hurt.

[Monkhouse]

Yeah that's more what I was saying. I guess if you read what I said the wording sort of sounds like something else. There is no tone this way.  But was more trying to point out and try to figure out  if Mickey will play this year.

We can really save ourselves 11 million dollars though by the way the roster is set up.  We need Amir now, but we get someone else we don't necessarily.  Also if Mickey develops , we don't need Amir either.

Not knocking Amir either.  He's very good.  He gets paid 11 mil because he is an nba level rim protector and he's worth it compared to a lot of guys.

By save 11 million dollars, I more mean open that money up to spend elsewhere and on better talent.  That talent has to be there to spend on though.

There are ways with the rising cap where we can get in position to add 2 max players again though vs 1.

Well that was why I asked.  People assume people think  things they don't so whatever. I wasn't giddy over mickey.  It was a ?

Thanks for assuming I'm stupid though.  Great talking to you!

Don't get offended by what people post in response to you. No one here is ever out to question other 'intelligence,' even though that has happened numerous times in my time here in Cblog, despite the rules stating that we need to be respectful towards each other.

As for Mickey, I'm very high on him. I believe he has a Draymond Lite/Serge Ibaka ceiling, and could certainly become just like them, once he works on his weaknesses, shooting, passing, and handles.

He admitted that he gets compared to a lot of great shot blockers, but says his game is modeled after Dennis Rodman. And I can kind of see that. Rodman was never a great shot blocker, but what he brought on the floor, intensity, intangibles, rebounding, hustle, and nothing but his heart on the floor is nothing less of a monumental turnaround for a player that fell down from late first to second round.

Ainge believes highly in Mickey, just like you do Walker, or he wouldn't have doled out the historic highest 2nd round contract extension in NBA history.

I hope he does work on his shooting though. Spacing in today's NBA is extremely crucial to creating better offense.

[walker834]

Yeah that's more what I was saying. I guess if you read what I said the wording sort of sounds like something else. There is no tone this way.  But was more trying to point out and try to figure out  if Mickey will play this year.

We can really save ourselves 11 million dollars though by the way the roster is set up.  We need Amir now, but we get someone else we don't necessarily.  Also if Mickey develops , we don't need Amir either.

Not knocking Amir either.  He's very good.  He gets paid 11 mil because he is an nba level rim protector and he's worth it compared to a lot of guys.

By save 11 million dollars, I more mean open that money up to spend elsewhere and on better talent.  That talent has to be there to spend on though.

There are ways with the rising cap where we can get in position to add 2 max players again though vs 1.

Well that was why I asked.  People assume people think  things they don't so whatever. I wasn't giddy over mickey.  It was a ?

Thanks for assuming I'm stupid though.  Great talking to you!

Don't get offended by what people post in response to you. No one here is ever out to question other 'intelligence,' even though that has happened numerous times in my time here in Cblog, despite the rules stating that we need to be respectful towards each other.

As for Mickey, I'm very high on him. I believe he has a Draymond Lite/Serge Ibaka ceiling, and could certainly become just like them, once he works on his weaknesses, shooting, passing, and handles.

He admitted that he gets compared to a lot of great shot blockers, but says his game is modeled after Dennis Rodman. And I can kind of see that. Rodman was never a great shot blocker, but what he brought on the floor, intensity, intangibles, rebounding, hustle, and nothing but his heart on the floor is nothing less of a monumental turnaround for a player that fell down from late first to second round.

Ainge believes highly in Mickey, just like you do Walker, or he wouldn't have doled out the historic highest 2nd round contract extension in NBA history.

I hope he does work on his shooting though. Spacing in today's NBA is extremely crucial to creating better offense.

It's my fault.  It's not always easy explaining everything out.  I'm looking at the bigger picture when I say things and don't always communicate it very well this way.  It's not as easy as it sounds.  Me saying Mickey looks better is me looking more long term though.  Not saying he's better at face value.  This helped clarify my thoughts anyways.

[Monkhouse]

Yeah that's more what I was saying. I guess if you read what I said the wording sort of sounds like something else. There is no tone this way.  But was more trying to point out and try to figure out  if Mickey will play this year.

We can really save ourselves 11 million dollars though by the way the roster is set up.  We need Amir now, but we get someone else we don't necessarily.  Also if Mickey develops , we don't need Amir either.

Not knocking Amir either.  He's very good.  He gets paid 11 mil because he is an nba level rim protector and he's worth it compared to a lot of guys.

By save 11 million dollars, I more mean open that money up to spend elsewhere and on better talent.  That talent has to be there to spend on though.

There are ways with the rising cap where we can get in position to add 2 max players again though vs 1.

Well that was why I asked.  People assume people think  things they don't so whatever. I wasn't giddy over mickey.  It was a ?

Thanks for assuming I'm stupid though.  Great talking to you!

Don't get offended by what people post in response to you. No one here is ever out to question other 'intelligence,' even though that has happened numerous times in my time here in Cblog, despite the rules stating that we need to be respectful towards each other.

As for Mickey, I'm very high on him. I believe he has a Draymond Lite/Serge Ibaka ceiling, and could certainly become just like them, once he works on his weaknesses, shooting, passing, and handles.

He admitted that he gets compared to a lot of great shot blockers, but says his game is modeled after Dennis Rodman. And I can kind of see that. Rodman was never a great shot blocker, but what he brought on the floor, intensity, intangibles, rebounding, hustle, and nothing but his heart on the floor is nothing less of a monumental turnaround for a player that fell down from late first to second round.

Ainge believes highly in Mickey, just like you do Walker, or he wouldn't have doled out the historic highest 2nd round contract extension in NBA history.

I hope he does work on his shooting though. Spacing in today's NBA is extremely crucial to creating better offense.

It's my fault.  It's not always easy explaining everything out.  I'm looking at the bigger picture when I say things and don't always communicate it very well this way.  It's not as easy as it sounds.  Me saying Mickey looks better is me looking more long term though.  Not saying he's better at face value.  This helped clarify my thoughts anyways.

Gotcha.

I feel like we'll hear about Mickey for days to come. He seems like the perfect small 4 or 5 in today's NBA.