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Re: Danny Ainge: 2 steps ahead of everyone. Again.
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2016, 06:37:55 PM »

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So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks. 

This kind of sums of the way I feel.  Unless we get blow away by some crazy offer let's keep the picks and see how things pan out.

I feel the same too. Ainge put us in the absolute best position and there is not one team in the nba with as much going for it with regard to the future and the present. So rare to have a team that can compete for a conference title/chance at the finals and have a few shots and the number 1 pick at the exact same time. I am sure there might have been a few teams over the years but honestly the last one I remember is the Celtics in 1986. Coming off their 84 championship and being one of the best teams out there and traded Gerald Henderson for the Sonics pick in 1986 which was number 2 (unfortunately it was Len Bias) but it was still the last time I remember a team have the present and future at their feet at the same time.
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Re: Danny Ainge: 2 steps ahead of everyone. Again.
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2016, 06:38:50 PM »

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I agree with your post as far as Jaylen Brown goes but hold up. So if Danny Ainge knew Durant was going to the Warriors that long ago, then why set up a prestigious meeting and pay for Brady to fly out with him to his meeting ?

Danny Ainge did absolutely everything he could have reasonably done to set up a team for Durant to lead, and convince him to join us. If GSW doesn't exist, Durant is probably a Celtic right now or at least in 2017.  But GSW does exist.

The point is that Ainge did not mortgage one single piece of our current youth or our future to get to that point.  That is mastery of what he did.

Re: Danny Ainge: 2 steps ahead of everyone. Again.
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2016, 06:42:21 PM »

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I was at the NBA Draft party when Wyc literally cringed at the boos cascading from the rafters.  Of the couple thousand people in attendance...  Apparently they knew something that Danny didn't...

...But it is absolutely clear to me that Jaylen Brown was the best player available AND best fit for this team at #3. 

Umm.....

Not sure what you are getting at.  The fans were irate because they believed (at least this was my impression) that drafting Dunn would open up the door to Butler or a trade with Philly.  That's what I mean by 'knew something that Danny didn't.'

It is very clear to me given what I have seen from Brown and what I knew about him at the time that he was the right pick.  And it retrospect it looks even better.

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2016, 06:45:18 PM »

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I agree with your post as far as Jaylen Brown goes but hold up. So if Danny Ainge knew Durant was going to the Warriors that long ago, then why set up a prestigious meeting and pay for Brady to fly out with him to his meeting ?

As much as I can't stand Steven A. Smith n think he's a waste of airtime on any national level, he was dead on about Durant and how he said this was the all time weakest move he's ever seen an all star make. Durant has lost all my respect as far as basketball goes he's made the absolute worse decision ever choosing the Warriors. I hope Durant breaks his ankle n misses the entire season. That's how I feel about that. Danny had no clue Durant would go to GS or he wouldn't of had that meeting

This is a little bit of an overreaction.

Definitely an over reaction. All I wanted was for him to blow his fingers off on an m80 😂
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Re: Danny Ainge: 2 steps ahead of everyone. Again.
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2016, 06:46:25 PM »

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I don't know about everyone.  I've been right with hiim. There are only so many stars in the nba that can get us a title.  Ainge himself tried really hard for Durant.  We can only control so much as far as stars in the league. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2016, 06:51:03 PM »

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I was at the NBA Draft party when Wyc literally cringed at the boos cascading from the rafters.  Of the couple thousand people in attendance...  Apparently they knew something that Danny didn't...

...But it is absolutely clear to me that Jaylen Brown was the best player available AND best fit for this team at #3. 

Umm.....

TP. I'll just take my chuckle at this thread and move on ...
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Re: Danny Ainge: 2 steps ahead of everyone. Again.
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2016, 09:58:31 PM »

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making a ridiculous trade for a fringe star like Jimmy Butler never made sense to me.  We could have just pitched it to durant that if he really REALLY wanted us to overpay for a guy like Butler, we could do it down the line.  He wanted to go bandwagon onto a 73 win team so he could ensure he got some jewelry. 

So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks.  A decade from now, Curry and Durant will be 37... Draymond and Klay will be 35.  And our youngins will be hitting their late 20s prime.   That's our window, assuming Joel Embiid and Karl Towns haven't teamed up by then to eat the league alive.

Jimmy Butler a fringe all star? Cmon man that's just disrespectful. One of the top two-way players in the league. Danny can't draft anyways. Let's trade one pick, Crowder and Sully for the guy. That's a good deal. The Bulls get three young players to work with and we got a solid all star.

Getting Butler instantly makes us on par with Cleveland. Forget about Golden State, I just want to win the ECF

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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2016, 10:06:41 PM »

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So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks. 

This kind of sums of the way I feel.  Unless we get blow away by some crazy offer let's keep the picks and see how things pan out.

I feel the same too. Ainge put us in the absolute best position and there is not one team in the nba with as much going for it with regard to the future and the present. So rare to have a team that can compete for a conference title/chance at the finals and have a few shots and the number 1 pick at the exact same time. I am sure there might have been a few teams over the years but honestly the last one I remember is the Celtics in 1986. Coming off their 84 championship and being one of the best teams out there and traded Gerald Henderson for the Sonics pick in 1986 which was number 2 (unfortunately it was Len Bias) but it was still the last time I remember a team have the present and future at their feet at the same time.

Ehem... 2003 Pistons..

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2016, 10:17:45 PM »

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making a ridiculous trade for a fringe star like Jimmy Butler never made sense to me.  We could have just pitched it to durant that if he really REALLY wanted us to overpay for a guy like Butler, we could do it down the line.  He wanted to go bandwagon onto a 73 win team so he could ensure he got some jewelry. 

So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks.  A decade from now, Curry and Durant will be 37... Draymond and Klay will be 35.  And our youngins will be hitting their late 20s prime.   That's our window, assuming Joel Embiid and Karl Towns haven't teamed up by then to eat the league alive.

Jimmy Butler a fringe all star? Cmon man that's just disrespectful. One of the top two-way players in the league. Danny can't draft anyways. Let's trade one pick, Crowder and Sully for the guy. That's a good deal. The Bulls get three young players to work with and we got a solid all star.

Getting Butler instantly makes us on par with Cleveland. Forget about Golden State, I just want to win the ECF

LarBrd33 obviously hasn't watched butler play before.  Butler is exactly the type of player celtics fans should love.   

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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2016, 10:43:32 PM »

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making a ridiculous trade for a fringe star like Jimmy Butler never made sense to me.  We could have just pitched it to durant that if he really REALLY wanted us to overpay for a guy like Butler, we could do it down the line.  He wanted to go bandwagon onto a 73 win team so he could ensure he got some jewelry. 

So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks.  A decade from now, Curry and Durant will be 37... Draymond and Klay will be 35.  And our youngins will be hitting their late 20s prime.   That's our window, assuming Joel Embiid and Karl Towns haven't teamed up by then to eat the league alive.

Do people really think this?  After these last playoffs, I now think GSW would have lost that first finals if Kyrie/Love weren't injured.  2 finals in a row I now am starting to think Steph has no balls.  Durant is no different, and he just proved it by putting his tail between his legs and crawling to the GSW. 

Draymond, Klay, and Iggy are the heart and soul of this team.  Iggy is old as hell I honestly don't see him getting through this entire season on this thin of a roster, and Draymond is a ticking time bomb mental case.  Steph and Durant are both mental midgets.

I think they are beatable.
They are a 73 win team that came a minute away from being back-to-back champions and just added arguably the best basketball player alive.  Yeah - barring injury, they will own the league for the foreseeable future.

Yeah sorry. They ain't losing the finals for awhile.

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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2016, 10:49:56 PM »

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making a ridiculous trade for a fringe star like Jimmy Butler never made sense to me.  We could have just pitched it to durant that if he really REALLY wanted us to overpay for a guy like Butler, we could do it down the line.  He wanted to go bandwagon onto a 73 win team so he could ensure he got some jewelry. 

So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks.  A decade from now, Curry and Durant will be 37... Draymond and Klay will be 35.  And our youngins will be hitting their late 20s prime.   That's our window, assuming Joel Embiid and Karl Towns haven't teamed up by then to eat the league alive.

Jimmy Butler a fringe all star? Cmon man that's just disrespectful. One of the top two-way players in the league. Danny can't draft anyways. Let's trade one pick, Crowder and Sully for the guy. That's a good deal. The Bulls get three young players to work with and we got a solid all star.

Getting Butler instantly makes us on par with Cleveland. Forget about Golden State, I just want to win the ECF

LarBrd33 obviously hasn't watched butler play before.  Butler is exactly the type of player celtics fans should love.

Prob go check one of the 5 billion old threads about Butler. Welcome to C's blog newbie.
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2016, 11:05:16 PM »

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Disagree with the OP. I don't think it's that Ainge knew we wouldn't land Durant. It's probably more the case that he had multiple scenarios mapped out and he didn't put all his eggs in one basket.

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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2016, 11:24:17 PM »

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making a ridiculous trade for a fringe star like Jimmy Butler never made sense to me.  We could have just pitched it to durant that if he really REALLY wanted us to overpay for a guy like Butler, we could do it down the line.  He wanted to go bandwagon onto a 73 win team so he could ensure he got some jewelry. 

So with Golden State winning the next 10 championships, we might as well just wait it out.  Keep the picks.  A decade from now, Curry and Durant will be 37... Draymond and Klay will be 35.  And our youngins will be hitting their late 20s prime.   That's our window, assuming Joel Embiid and Karl Towns haven't teamed up by then to eat the league alive.

Do people really think this?  After these last playoffs, I now think GSW would have lost that first finals if Kyrie/Love weren't injured.  2 finals in a row I now am starting to think Steph has no balls.  Durant is no different, and he just proved it by putting his tail between his legs and crawling to the GSW. 

Draymond, Klay, and Iggy are the heart and soul of this team.  Iggy is old as hell I honestly don't see him getting through this entire season on this thin of a roster, and Draymond is a ticking time bomb mental case.  Steph and Durant are both mental midgets.

I think they are beatable.
They are a 73 win team that came a minute away from being back-to-back champions and just added arguably the best basketball player alive.  Yeah - barring injury, they will own the league for the foreseeable future.

I disagree.  Losing Bogut and Barnes will definitely hurt them on both ends, so it'll be interesting to see how they manage to fill out the roster.  I'm not sure that Durant fits that well, especially on defense, with Golden State, quite honestly, but we'll see.  I'm probably wrong, as usual, lol ;D.