Are the celtics allergic to star talent today?

[walker834]

I remember when Pierce and Reggie were very young players and remember liking them quite a bit.  I don't think it's always been this way either.  Pierce obviously learned a lot about celtics culture and history in his time here but I'm always amazed at the complete lack of knowledge from most nba players coming in today. I'm also usually very unimpressed with them from a personality standpoint. Jaylen strikes me as a smart kid though. So does Rozier.  AB always liked too.  Seems to me like there is a definate style that DA likes to draft. Even Horford is an understated sort of player that way.  A lot of stars today are jerks I guess is the point.  It's just the way of the league. I can't think of many I actually like.

[walker834]

We are probably one of the best run organizations in the nba too.  For a team as competitive as we are we have one of the lowest payrolls and least star power.  We have all this cap space and no one to spend it on.

[walker834]

The nba used to be much more physical as well.  I guess players today are nice people but it's fake to me.  No way Curry gets away with what he does back then.  He'd be completely demolished trying to drive in the paint like he does.  Players are too buddy buddy.  Patting each other on the back of the opposing team. MOst of these young kids coming in dont strike me as any different.

Ainge had to babysit Gerald Green.  I get they are young kids and we have to bring them along slowly and all that but that's not even it.   Some of these young stars coming in are not that impressive.

Is demarcus cousins really going to lead us to a championship or blake griffin or kevin love? Most of these guys have a ways to go even still.

[mr. dee]

I wasn't even born during the 80's but I've watched some games and I can say players back then were out for blood. Ever since the Malice in the Palace, the league was slowly became softer. Players like Kobe, KG, Pierce are dying breed. Luckily, we have a seed of them in Jaylen Brown, Jae Crowder and Marcus Smart.

[walker834]

I like our players for the most part.  They aren't what they used to be but play hard for the most part. KO not so sure sometimes.

Smart, Jaylen, AB all nice guys but arent afraid to get in peoples faces.  They also seem more loyal than a lot of players.  Crowder is that too. But talent wise they aren't superstars.

There are very few players in the nba worth 100 million dollars.  Even a lot of roleplayers are not worth what they are getting either.

[walker834]

Towns seems like a guy who would fit here. I can't think of many others.

[dannyboy35]

The malice in the palace and the way the nba has been run is all about racism. The nba reacted as if players were PRONE to that kind of thing. Meanwhile in baseball baby pitchers throw baseballs at a guy who just hit a home run off them. A good old boys pile up ensues and everybody commends them for backing up their teammates. In hockey the refs circle the players( who actually really know how to throw devastating punches) punch eachother repeatedly in the face until they decide they've had enough. But basketball? Don't leave the bench area. They act like King Kong could break his chains and unleash his fury on the stadium. It's embarrassingly racist.

[walker834]

I just think the nba is so predicated on talent level it's very hard for teams to win in other ways.  The pistons can't build a team like they used to anymore. 

You can't go out there and say we are going to win and just outmuscle you or play like a bunch of crazy people. 

Big men aren't even utilized like they were. Anthony Mason and guys like Artest wouldn't even exist in the nba today.  Even a guy like Stockton I just dont see how  he could get away with some of the stuff he used to do.

Players like Cousins aren't smart in good ways.  Love is the same way where he's a weakling in bad ways sometimes.

You really have to build with pure talent.  Lebron gets away with a lot of stuff though.  So does Dwade.  You still have your stars that do that.

But overall you need like guys like towns who just are talented and play the right way.  There  just aren't a ton of Tom Brady level talents in the nba like that.  Towns isn't even that. He's just a really solid talented player more in the mold of a grant hill personality wise.

Theya re either too young or not developed enough or whatever.  Or not talented enough or whatever it is.

Simmons will be good one day hopefully but he's not developed enough. Neither is Wiggins.  Neither is Parker at this point.

[LGC88]

Well it's different nowadays, if you are a top players you are allow to use your left arm to create your own space, and you can't be touched once you manage to put one foot in the paint.
that's called... respect?... I guess.
(sarcasm)

[walker834]

Curry is so good because he's able to play his game and not be touched pretty much. He's also developed his talent to the point where he's better than other players in the league right now.

Finding players that are that talented and good and developed is not reality right now. There are very few players like that.

It's a dream come true for Jerry West but the rest of the league not so sure.

The spurs are the last team to really do it another way.

[OHCeltic]

We drafted our super star to be in J. Brown