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NBA needs to move 3 pt line back
« on: July 04, 2016, 09:30:09 PM »

Offline rondohondo

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It would really help the game out IMO. You open up the floor more,making big men who can score down low valuable again. The mid range would also be more available, and you make the 3 pt shot less of a weapon.

Maybe have to lengthen and widen the floor a little more to .

Anyone in agreement?

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 09:37:57 PM »

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You do not need that at all. Just eliminate the 'Jordan Rules' and the game will revert to more of  what it used to be a big man's game. Just allow the guards to be hand checked, and roughed up a little bit. lol !!!

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 09:43:22 PM »

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You don't change the rules for one team.

We saw in the Finals that late in a playoff game, when guys are banged up, you gotta be able to get inside.

This isn't even a point of discussion if not for one team putting together the three most dangerous shooters in the league on the same team.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2016, 09:49:04 PM »

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Won't matter to Curry ...it would just screw up everybody else

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2016, 09:57:06 PM »

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Bad idea. The problem for big men is neither the 3pt line nor "Jordan rules". It is changes in how they can be defended down low. The lane is more clogged when big men get the ball.

But if you change rules to give them more space down low, then we have the opposite problem where Shaq is just unstoppable and that team dominates instead of Curry's team.

When players dominate, deal with it. No matter what the rules are, there will be players with certain elite skills that will be perfectly fit for those rules and will tear up the league. This is normal and not a problem.

Hand checking was horrible, lazy defense. That never should have been a thing and got banned because teams went crazy with it in the 90s. It led to the ugliest basketball of all time, nothing like the game before or after.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2016, 10:04:31 PM »

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hand checking eliminated to allow Jordan to roam free. How can you say you do not change rules for one player yet support the elimination of hand checking?

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 06:27:24 AM »

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Bad idea. The problem for big men is neither the 3pt line nor "Jordan rules". It is changes in how they can be defended down low. The lane is more clogged when big men get the ball.

But if you change rules to give them more space down low, then we have the opposite problem where Shaq is just unstoppable and that team dominates instead of Curry's team.

When players dominate, deal with it. No matter what the rules are, there will be players with certain elite skills that will be perfectly fit for those rules and will tear up the league. This is normal and not a problem.

Hand checking was horrible, lazy defense. That never should have been a thing and got banned because teams went crazy with it in the 90s. It led to the ugliest basketball of all time, nothing like the game before or after.

I think the league today has become as ugly as it was in the late 90s early 00s.

I am sick of every team running 100+ pick and rolls and game and trying to hoist up 20-30 long distance shots instead of trying to get closer to the basket. I am annoyed that players are less rounded than before yet able to achieve huge success if they can just shoot from distance, handle the ball in PnR and finish around the basket (like Harden).

I know many will disagree but to me the quality of the league has been lowering for the last several years and this is one of the weakest eras of the NBA of the last 30-40 years.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 07:17:46 AM »

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Better move is lifting the ban on handchecking and eliminating the three second rule. Throwback to the '90s. I miss the aggressive, physical game. If Jordan played today, he would average 45-50 ppg. We need a bit of contact in basketball. I used to love football, but hate what concussions have proven to do to the players. We're not going to reach that level of contact, of course, but basketball should have some contact. If a guy as small as Stockton could dominate under the old rules, there is really no concern. Man up.
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Hand checking screams" I don't have the quickness to stay with you ." It's pathetic.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2016, 07:28:16 AM »

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I'm all for bringing back passion and letting guys leave the bench area, none of this double tech ridiculousness. .

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2016, 07:33:17 AM »

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Bad idea. The problem for big men is neither the 3pt line nor "Jordan rules". It is changes in how they can be defended down low. The lane is more clogged when big men get the ball.

But if you change rules to give them more space down low, then we have the opposite problem where Shaq is just unstoppable and that team dominates instead of Curry's team.

When players dominate, deal with it. No matter what the rules are, there will be players with certain elite skills that will be perfectly fit for those rules and will tear up the league. This is normal and not a problem.

Hand checking was horrible, lazy defense. That never should have been a thing and got banned because teams went crazy with it in the 90s. It led to the ugliest basketball of all time, nothing like the game before or after.

I think the league today has become as ugly as it was in the late 90s early 00s.

I am sick of every team running 100+ pick and rolls and game and trying to hoist up 20-30 long distance shots instead of trying to get closer to the basket. I am annoyed that players are less rounded than before yet able to achieve huge success if they can just shoot from distance, handle the ball in PnR and finish around the basket (like Harden).

I know many will disagree but to me the quality of the league has been lowering for the last several years and this is one of the weakest eras of the NBA of the last 30-40 years.

You're absolutely right. We really have not had truly great ball since the end of the Jordan era.

Obviously basketball is better than the other sports, but it's all finesse and no physicality these days. To my mind, you need a balance. The truly great basketball players have finesse and physicality. It does not necessarily mean being big and fast. See Stockton, John. 

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2016, 07:34:19 AM »

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Hand checking screams" I don't have the quickness to stay with you ." It's pathetic.

I disagree. I think it screams, "I am going to out-muscle you, boy."

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2016, 07:42:15 AM »

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Agreed on hand checking - NBA is all about quickness and 3s rather than physicality. A foul would still be a foul, but a player needs to be able guard other players. This is why the league has been going to quick/strong guards who can't shoot (they need to be able to guard those who can) and 3 point shooting bigs who can't play down low. It is so the opposite of how it used to be. A mix of both would be nice.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2016, 01:31:57 PM »

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Bad idea. The problem for big men is neither the 3pt line nor "Jordan rules". It is changes in how they can be defended down low. The lane is more clogged when big men get the ball.

But if you change rules to give them more space down low, then we have the opposite problem where Shaq is just unstoppable and that team dominates instead of Curry's team.

When players dominate, deal with it. No matter what the rules are, there will be players with certain elite skills that will be perfectly fit for those rules and will tear up the league. This is normal and not a problem.

Hand checking was horrible, lazy defense. That never should have been a thing and got banned because teams went crazy with it in the 90s. It led to the ugliest basketball of all time, nothing like the game before or after.

I think the league today has become as ugly as it was in the late 90s early 00s.

I am sick of every team running 100+ pick and rolls and game and trying to hoist up 20-30 long distance shots instead of trying to get closer to the basket. I am annoyed that players are less rounded than before yet able to achieve huge success if they can just shoot from distance, handle the ball in PnR and finish around the basket (like Harden).

I know many will disagree but to me the quality of the league has been lowering for the last several years and this is one of the weakest eras of the NBA of the last 30-40 years.

Being able to shoot from distance at a high rate is a pretty remarkable skill.  I know it seems "easy" now as we see so many players able to do it, but think about it... long distance snipers are throwing a ball into a hoop 23 feet away from them that is floating 10 feet high in the air with a margin of error of a few inches.  Often while stopping from full speed and/or a defender in their face.  The remarkable ability to do this shouldn't be diminished, it should have to be game planned for.

I actually love the pick and roll and am one of it's biggest fans.  It's a really complex play with so many ways to utilize and also defend, but many of the options to defend it have been eliminated because of how the NBA tolerates the moving screen.  It's one of my biggest gripes with the game today and NBA teams have just been forced to adjust by using schemes that focus on switching and trying to acquire players who can switch.

I too am slightly annoyed that players are less well rounded and a lot of teams are employing a "moneyball approach" much more lately (all shots within 5 feet or beyond 23 feet).  But I'm already seeing defenses counter that by chasing players aggressively off the line and having the help waiting at the rim (Atlanta did it to us in the playoffs).  I think teams will begin to benefit soon a lot by having strong mid-range players as a counter to that in this everlasting game of chess.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2016, 01:37:39 PM »

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Yeah it sucks that the league is rewarding players for being able to defend multiple positions, handle the ball, drive and shoot.

Lets go back to the time when roles were more rigid, the game was much slower, and defense involved a lot of hacking and bumping. Why would we want to encourage teams to actually implement a system? Why would we prefer players who are nimble and make good use of angles and shot deterrence without clobbering opponents?

Boo! I hate floor spacing! I hate multiple points of attack! Let's go back to the time when individual players tried to create offense for twenty to thirty possessions a game. Let's go back to the time when the floor was much smaller. Let's go back to the time when being huge and strong was enough to be very valuable. Who wants a league where the ideal player is average in size, very quick, and versatile?
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