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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2016, 11:33:27 PM »

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Why do we need to cut him?  Not really seeing anyone else on our summer league roster worth cutting him over.  I don't see where overpaying some vet with limited upside helps us either.  Find me a better option.  Young can play in the d-league.

There were a number of better players who went undrafted this year, imo, lol ;D.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2016, 11:35:29 PM »

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Why do we need to cut him?  Not really seeing anyone else on our summer league roster worth cutting him over.  I don't see where overpaying some vet with limited upside helps us either.  Find me a better option.  Young can play in the d-league.

There were a number of better players who went undrafted this year, imo, lol ;D.

Could you name a couple because I can't think of any off the top of my head?

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2016, 11:40:51 PM »

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Why do we need to cut him?  Not really seeing anyone else on our summer league roster worth cutting him over.  I don't see where overpaying some vet with limited upside helps us either.  Find me a better option.  Young can play in the d-league.

There were a number of better players who went undrafted this year, imo, lol ;D.

Could you name a couple because I can't think of any off the top of my head?

Sure thing :). Off the top of my head, Gary Payton II, Yogi Ferrell, Daniel Ochefu, Danuel House, Sheldon McClellan, and Jarrod Uthoff.  I'd probably throw Tonye Jekiri in there, as well, but this is just my opinion :-\.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2016, 11:40:56 PM »

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Why do we need to cut him?  Not really seeing anyone else on our summer league roster worth cutting him over.  I don't see where overpaying some vet with limited upside helps us either.  Find me a better option.  Young can play in the d-league.

There were a number of better players who went undrafted this year, imo, lol ;D.

Could you name a couple because I can't think of any off the top of my head?
I like GP II better but thats because I love GP II.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2016, 12:19:48 AM »

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I actually saw some potential despite me being very critical of him today, in summer league. I think its because I feel like he is too timid on offense, and too panicky on defense. He doesn't play the game like its a natural, but in the D-League, he seems to possess that utmost confidence to take the deadeye shot.

He needs to stop falling for ball fakes. Take his time, and keep a more rounded stance on defense. He sags too much, and doesn't ultitize his wingspan more. If he gets beat, I would like to see him try to run back to contest, instead of watching the ball play.

I think another issue with Young is his inability to make plays for him. He doesn't scramble through screens like shooter do, and that's usually their bread and butter for their shots. He wants shots given to him, but isn't willing to take shots that he isn't given.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2016, 12:22:32 AM »

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I don't see where GP II makes any sense.  A limited pg when we already have 12.  We have marcus and bradley and rozier who are the same kind of defensive guards but way better.  We need anther one?

Young's D may suck but at least he plays another position and is supposed to be a wing shooter scorer of sorts.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2016, 12:58:27 AM »

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I don't see where GP II makes any sense.  A limited pg when we already have 12.  We have marcus and bradley and rozier who are the same kind of defensive guards but way better.  We need anther one?

Young's D may suck but at least he plays another position and is supposed to be a wing shooter scorer of sorts.

I don't see where passing up talent ever makes sense, and rosters are hardly static under Danny Ainge, anyway.  It was a really deep draft this year, imo, even into the undrafted pool, lol, so we should have taken as much talent as possible and worked out the rest later, in my view.  I'd rather have that problem as opposed to later regretting not taking a player simply because they didn't 'fit', but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

And the key word in regards to James Young being that kind of player is supposed, haha ;D. Ugh.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2016, 01:29:09 AM »

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I don't see where GP II makes any sense.  A limited pg when we already have 12.  We have marcus and bradley and rozier who are the same kind of defensive guards but way better.  We need anther one?

Young's D may suck but at least he plays another position and is supposed to be a wing shooter scorer of sorts.

I don't see where passing up talent ever makes sense, and rosters are hardly static under Danny Ainge, anyway.  It was a really deep draft this year, imo, even into the undrafted pool, lol, so we should have taken as much talent as possible and worked out the rest later, in my view.  I'd rather have that problem as opposed to later regretting not taking a player simply because they didn't 'fit', but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

And the key word in regards to James Young being that kind of player is supposed, haha ;D. Ugh.

If DA went into every draft just drafting the best talent he could this roster would be a cluster f of young players though that we can't all play or sign when they are up for contract.  They would all play similar positions and do similar things too.  Most GM's don't draft this way.  Mark Cuban might lol, and look how he ends up with a lot of overpaid roleplayers.  I just think it's funny he's the one who jumped at barnes and bogut.  A team like miami might hit on whiteside or whatever late. We even did that with Rondo but most of the time Ainge is trying to manage the roster.

Plus scouting this draft, ainge knows who's good and I can guarantee there aren't any players we are going to overly regret. Some maybe that might turn out good but there are no paul george's later this draft.

We could go into this draft and take Lavert later and Lawawu down teh line but I don't know.  I think Ainge did alright. What are those players going to do for us?

Does Lawawu really make us that much better?   Are we going to trade him for Durant?  I'm fine taking jaylen and playing him and having james young play in the d-league. Vs having LAwawu here with Brown cutting into his time.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2016, 01:33:01 AM »

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He took Brown is what i'm saying. He took  the best guy and having young play in the d-league is fine.  People wanted Lavert or Lawawu if ainge drafted that way but what does that do for us besides create a cluster f?

I guarantee Ainge knows who can do what. That's not how he drafts though. He didn't miss these guys.  He misses some players yes.

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« Reply #69 on: July 06, 2016, 03:35:19 AM »

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I don't see where GP II makes any sense.  A limited pg when we already have 12.  We have marcus and bradley and rozier who are the same kind of defensive guards but way better.  We need anther one?

Young's D may suck but at least he plays another position and is supposed to be a wing shooter scorer of sorts.

I don't see where passing up talent ever makes sense, and rosters are hardly static under Danny Ainge, anyway.  It was a really deep draft this year, imo, even into the undrafted pool, lol, so we should have taken as much talent as possible and worked out the rest later, in my view.  I'd rather have that problem as opposed to later regretting not taking a player simply because they didn't 'fit', but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

And the key word in regards to James Young being that kind of player is supposed, haha ;D. Ugh.

passing talent.. or should I say, your evaluation of talent? Sorry but you have 0 credibility. I would trust people who actually gets paid for that job over you.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #70 on: July 06, 2016, 04:15:49 AM »

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I don't see where GP II makes any sense.  A limited pg when we already have 12.  We have marcus and bradley and rozier who are the same kind of defensive guards but way better.  We need anther one?

Young's D may suck but at least he plays another position and is supposed to be a wing shooter scorer of sorts.

I don't see where passing up talent ever makes sense, and rosters are hardly static under Danny Ainge, anyway.  It was a really deep draft this year, imo, even into the undrafted pool, lol, so we should have taken as much talent as possible and worked out the rest later, in my view.  I'd rather have that problem as opposed to later regretting not taking a player simply because they didn't 'fit', but we are where we are :-\. Sigh.

And the key word in regards to James Young being that kind of player is supposed, haha ;D. Ugh.

passing talent.. or should I say, your evaluation of talent? Sorry but you have 0 credibility. I would trust people who actually gets paid for that job over you.

I'd like to know the genesis of your evident disdain for me, despite the fact that I have never done anything to you.  All I'm doing is posting ideas and thoughts, just like anyone else, and just because those sentiments are not often shared by many on this site doesn't mean that they're 'dumb' or a result of 'trash logic', as you so eloquently stated in another thread (sarcasm) ::).

Btw, since you rudely called out another poster for using 'teared' instead of 'torn', could you at least be bothered to adhere to your own grammar standards and use 'get' instead of 'gets'? ::) It would really go a long way towards improving your standing as an armchair English teacher, where you currently have zero credibility ;).  Thanks. 
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #71 on: July 06, 2016, 04:30:14 AM »

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It seems like most fans like to just bash certain guys to me.  i like the way ainge drafts.  There are players in the league that put up numbers  but are pretty limited players.  I actually enjoy watching some of these guys develop, I turn on talk radio and the focus is on something totally else.  It's a stars league but the Durant, Durant, Durant stuff won't stop.

Philly was trying to unload a guy like Covington on us who is not a guy who would help us.

Young's talent I can see it. Whether he will ever grow into that who knows.  I'd rather root for him to do that though because it's good for us.  He has the ability to be a better player.

Ainge does some pretty deep scouting. 
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2016, 04:34:39 AM »

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It seems like most fans like to just bash certain guys to me.  i like the way ainge drafts.  There are players in the league that put up numbers  but are pretty limited players.  I actually enjoy watching some of these guys develop, I turn on talk radio and the focus is on something totally else.  It's a stars league but the Durant, Durant, Durant stuff won't stop.

Philly was trying to unload a guy like Covington on us who is not a guy who would help us.

Young's talent I can see it. Whether he will ever grow into that who knows.  I'd rather root for him to do that though because it's good for us.  He has the ability to be a better player.

Ainge does some pretty deep scouting.

He does have the ability to be a better player. But unfortunatly he's lost on defense and can't even revover due to his lateral quickness.
Yabusele get lost on defense many times, but he always managed to recover.
In Boston, we prioritize defense first for any rookie who wants to play. We can agree or not to that (that's another debat) but that's how it is right now.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #73 on: July 06, 2016, 04:48:11 AM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYja9WWZNrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18cbnaVzAaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stfTh98D_1k

He's really skinny right now.  Gets out  muscled and gets caught sleeping on defense quite a bit.  When the spotlight is on him he seems to become invisible at times.  But then he does stuff like this.  That shooting stroke and his athleticism is what is attractive.

I would keep him. He's too good a shooter potentially.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #74 on: July 06, 2016, 04:51:01 AM »

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Is he the worst player on an acual NBA roster right now?

I mean I know it sounds dramatic, but off the top of my head I don't think I can truthfully think of a player who is on an NBA roster, who is worse then Young.