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Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2016, 01:34:22 AM »

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my bad lol. I've been saying Amir for months now as our backup.  I've heard worse things than Perk. Mahinmi isn't bad either according to me.  Neither is KG.  Everything else bleh.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2016, 01:34:31 AM »

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IF KD says he wants Perk over Amir as his safety blanket I think I'd be fine with that.  But yeah by reason we could sell him on Amir and he'd probably agree.  Amir can be his new safety blanket.

Can we keep Amir if we sign KD?

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2016, 01:36:28 AM »

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KG and Amir are probably similar as far as talent level and skillset at this point in their careers.  I just don't know about KG and Durant coexisting.  Amir doesn't offer much as far as leadership goes.   Perk is a vocal leader but not the player Amir is at this stage.  Amir and Isaiah worked pretty well in the pick and roll during the playoffs.

I don't know where you're getting this notion that Amir lacks leadership from. He was adored in Toronto, makes every team he's on better, shows tremendously well in advanced stats despite low counting stats, indicating high intangibles, and overall, has a fantastic reputation as a glue guy.
I say pick up the Amir option and be done with it. Let Zeller go.

Horford, Amir, Olynyk is decent center position depth.

don't we have to renounce Amir and JJ to sign Al and KD?
Sorry I thought the premise was no KD.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2016, 01:37:10 AM »

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I think we should keep Amir.  He can play for longer stretches is younger.  Is a good leader on the court. He's signed for one year.  Zizic has to develop to beat him out. We might keep Zeller too because we might not be able to keep Amir past this year.

Amir may be one and done with us like PJ Brown was.  I hope maybe we can extend him for cheaper but some team may outbid us after this year.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2016, 01:38:36 AM »

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I never said Amir was bad.  I just said he was our best option as a backup in another thread when someone mentioned perk.  My bad for being nice and saying I'd take Perkins.  And KG and Pierce would be cool with me too although that's pushing it.

I think Amir is our best option as a back up.  I'd take Perkins though.  There are worse things we could do than that.

I'd love to see Perk come back.  There are much worse things we could do than that. If KD really wants him here.

If KD comes its because he is trying to build something with the players of Now, not trying to dig up the Dead from yesteryear..   No way would he be cool playing with those legendary Corpses..

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2016, 01:40:29 AM »

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I'm liking the idea of bringing back Perkins over Amir now that i think about it.  More of a team leader and a good backup to have who will muscle guys with Horford here.

Would love to see KG and pierce back in backup roles too but not sure how that would work.

Not trying to be rude here, but can people please shut up about Perkins? He's toast!

Perk always sucked, imo, lol ;D.  Dude had no skills and he never learned to stop bringing the ball down, especially on offensive rebounds.  It drove Tommy nuts and always bugged me, as well.  Ugh.

That aside, I really wish that we had signed Daniel Ochefu, who is now with the Wizards.  We could have had him for next to nothing, too.  Sigh.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2016, 01:50:05 AM »

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my bad lol. I've been saying Amir for months now as our backup.  I've heard worse things than Perk. Mahinmi isn't bad either according to me.  Neither is KG.  Everything else bleh.

Mahinmi is going to Washington, Chris Anderson is one option, but we have already made a qualifying offer to Zeller.

I'd like Perk back as just a good locker room guy playing white mamba minutes.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2016, 01:58:09 AM »

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Yes Perkins was that good. You are all crazy.  The guy used to put up huge games at times particularly in rebounding +20 rebounds a game at times.  You see teams draft these centers later in drafts with a meanstreak. Perk was an enigma because he was 6'10" 280 pounds.  He was a great late pick that way.  He was a 9 and 9 guy in his prime with high fouls because of his style of play.  He also was a great person here and there were moments where his leadership really helped guys like Pierce and KG.

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« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2016, 01:59:31 AM »

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Perk and Hump for vet mins.  with KO and Mickey, we'll be good to go

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2016, 02:01:38 AM »

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Yes Perkins was that good. You are all crazy.  The guy used to put up huge games at times particularly in rebounding +20 rebounds a game at times.  You see teams draft these centers later in drafts with a meanstreak. Perk was an enigma because he was 6'10" 280 pounds.  He was a 9 and 9 guy in his prime with high fouls because of his style of play.  He also was a great person here and there were moments where his leadership really helped guys like Pierce and KG.

Oh please.  The guy was the 21st century version of Greg Kite, lol, albeit with no speed.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2016, 02:03:19 AM »

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Yes Perkins was that good. You are all crazy.  The guy used to put up huge games at times particularly in rebounding +20 rebounds a game at times.  You see teams draft these centers later in drafts with a meanstreak. Perk was an enigma because he was 6'10" 280 pounds.  He was a 9 and 9 guy in his prime with high fouls because of his style of play.  He also was a great person here and there were moments where his leadership really helped guys like Pierce and KG.

Oh please.  The guy was the 21st century version of Greg Kite, lol, albeit with no speed.

He was our starting center and a key cog on that team that won a title in 2008.

Anyone who says stuff like was Perkins that good or that he always sucked does not understand.

Both he and KG were the main reasons why our defense was so good.

Dude honestly go home. You couldn't carry Perk's jock.

Ray and Pierce were not great defenders. NEither was Rondo.  Rondo was a gambler.  He was able to do that because of Perkins.

Rondo himself said Perkins was his best friend and he was devatated when he was traded.  Our defense also went down the tubes.  He was Rondo's best friend.  Rondo and Ray used to give players clear lanes to the basket.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2016, 02:05:17 AM »

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Perk and Hump for vet mins.  with KO and Mickey, we'll be good to go

Not sure we could fit both though, we still have that team options on JJ and AJ, plus Zizic apparently doesn't want to be stashed.

Not sure about Bentil.

Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2016, 02:10:09 AM »

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Without Perkins here Mark Blount would have been our center.   Perkins is on a short list of great celtics defensive centers.  He was nothing Mark Blount was and everything he wasn't. Thank God.

If anything Al Jefferson was more overhyped. Perk was a 5th wheel and a roleplayer but a [dang] good one on those teams.

He was the only guy who could combat Dwight Howard in the playoffs at that time as well and the Lakers front line. 
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Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2016, 02:16:48 AM »

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Perk and Hump for vet mins.  with KO and Mickey, we'll be good to go
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Re: Trade for a Center
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2016, 02:18:31 AM »

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