Jaylen Brown - franchise player?

[Fred Roberts]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

We went for BPA, highest upside, that also fits the need of a position-less player. He could drift from 2-4 depending on match ups, and theoretically co-exist with other wings.

I think the comp to look/hope for is Iggy, who was drafted #9 overall, but I'm sure Chicago would have preferred taking him over Ben Gordon at #3 in 2004.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2004.html

Defense & athleticism first, offense and play making second.

[Boris Badenov]

It's really too early to tell.  I think in the absolute best case he's similar to Jimmy Butler or Andre Iguodala.

But he might end up closer to Jeff Green / Harrison Barnes, or maybe Tyreke Evans.

Probably not ever a "franchise" guy, but maybe a top 3 contributor for a good team.

Sounds about right. Maybe even higher on the high end.

I posted Pierce's shooting numbers the other day as a freshman. His percentages were almost identical to Brown's as a freshman. We don't know whether he will get there, but we have at least one data point and it's the first one I looked for. I mean if he ends up a 35-40% shooter from 3, with those physical tools he'll be a heckuva player.

Seems like his upside is the highest along with maybe Bender's and Chriss's. So Danny took the upside risk and decided to live with the downside risk, vs. a safer pick like Dunn.

Let's keep working at this rationalization. I'm almost through the denial and anger stages and expect that by tomorrow I'll be excited, and if he lights up summer league (which means nothing) I'll be convinced of his greatness.

Well, it doesn't always not mean nothing. But Jaylen Brown has to absolutely embarrass summer league competition (like what Drummond or Lillard did). He can't just light it up and look pretty good. He has to look like a future HoF-er against SL

What happens if Ben Simmons and Ingram look pretty good against their respective clubs? I was at Lebron James first Summer League game ever at Umass Boston where he only looked "pretty good". As each game went on he looked more and more comfortable against his competition, but it was a process.

Yeah, though I mostly agree with Rip. There have been a few top picks who struggled. But not many.

And the wide-open style there plays to his strengths. He should be catching lobs left and right from Rozier, who has top speed as well and likes to push the ball.

[td450]

Ainge likely only had a straight up choice between Noel and Brown. It looks like the other assets offered by Philly and other teams that were after the pick were redundant stuff we don't need more of. No go to scorers were offered.

We don't need late firsts and role players. They would likely just go to waste.

Noel might not be worth a 3 pick, but he would almost certainly fill a major need with a guy that fits our defensive identity perfectly. A big is hard to find.

Ainge must view Brown as having star potential, because Noel would have made us a better team right away.

[tankcity!]

Listening to the interviews by Adam Jones, it looks like the Celtics Front office thinks this guy can become a franchise player. I personally always really liked him, but yes his analytical data is terrible. However players improve. And I trust Ainge. Celtics fans really need to be patient with this pick. I like a slow organic rebuild. It's fun and now we get to see someone who has a chance to be an all star.

[vjcsmoke]

I don't see Leonard.  Leonard is quite a good shooter coming into the league.  49.3% 2p, 37.6% 3p, 77.3% FT his rookie season and has maintained career averages of 49.9% 2p, 39.1% 3p, and 82.8% FT.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html

I am really doubtful Jaylen Brown ever reaches those heights because he doesn't appear to be a natural shooter.  However, I feel JB might be able to reach the level of a less athletic but stronger Tracy McGrady.  That's not bad if he reaches that ceiling.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

I see Kawhi Leonard.

[dysgenic]

He reminds me of Jeff Green.  Even down to the horrible rebounding.

I would have rather had Noel, just like I would have rather had Perk back then.

I don't like this pick, I was a buddy hield guy.

[saltlover]

I don't see Leonard.  Leonard is quite a good shooter coming into the league.  49.3% 2p, 37.6% 3p, 77.3% FT his rookie season and has maintained career averages of 49.9% 2p, 39.1% 3p, and 82.8% FT.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html

I am really doubtful Jaylen Brown ever reaches those heights because he doesn't appear to be a natural shooter.  However, I feel JB might be able to reach the level of a less athletic but stronger Tracy McGrady.  That's not bad if he reaches that ceiling.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

I see Kawhi Leonard.

Jaylen Brown might not become the shooter Kawhi Leonard is.  But Kawhi Leonard should make us think that's what Brown could become.  Leonard shot 25% from 3 in college -- 20% his freshman year and 29% his sophomore year.  Leonard's first season in the NBA featured much better shooting, and he kept it up, but that was a major improvement from his college shooting, which was worse than Brown.

So, if Jaylen Brown improves his shooting as much as Leonard did entering the NBA, he could very much reach that level.

[kozlodoev]

He reminds me of Jeff Green.  Even down to the horrible rebounding.

How are 8 rebounds per 40 minutes horrible rebounding for a SF? Meh.

[GratefulCs]

He reminds me of Jeff Green.  Even down to the horrible rebounding.

How are 8 rebounds per 40 minutes horrible rebounding for a SF? Meh.

it's weird


People definitely see what they want to see


Jeff green? Come on

[ashanm10]

:DDDDDDDD

this kid requires the same patience and time we have given young

for sure hes gonna find a role!

and WISH for his BEST HEALTH

GO GET THEM BROWN!

[GratefulCs]

:DDDDDDDD

this kid requires the same patience and time we have given young

for sure hes gonna find a role!

and WISH for his BEST HEALTH

GO GET THEM BROWN!

wow


You got me hyped!

TP

[max215]

Listening to the presser right now, and it certainly sounds like Jaylen will play a lot this year. They're touting his defensive ability and readiness.

[hodgy03038]

And the patience we have given Young so far has really paid off.

[droopdog7]

The Kendrick Brown comparison is a lazy one.  Don't see it at all.

Matter of fact, Kendrick Brown was not really athletic in my view.  I mean, he could jump but that's about it.  He was a two-footed leaper that moved in straight lines.  Compare that to Jaylen, who is very nifty at getting by his man (and through traffic) and finishing. 

They have very different skill sets.

[rondohondo]

The Kendrick Brown comparison is a lazy one.  Don't see it at all.

Matter of fact, Kendrick Brown was not really athletic in my view.  I mean, he could jump but that's about it.  He was a two-footed leaper that moved in straight lines.  Compare that to Jaylen, who is very nifty at getting by his man (and through traffic) and finishing. 

They have very different skill sets.

Plus Kendrick played his first 2 years at a Jr college, while jaylen was the number 2 recruit nationally for a div 1 college