Jaylen Brown - franchise player?

[Robb]

And this is the trait the you want from franchise players.

The holy trinity of finding a franchise player:

- Work Ethic
- Intelligence
- Will to win

I rarely see guys fail with those traits, especially guys with above average athleticism and skills.

Well...all of that *and* a positive impact on a basketball court. You also look for franchise players to have had that, as well.

Also, if he had those things his incredible athleticism would probably have translated to blocks or steals while he was at Cal, and that didn't happen. Elite athletes who know how to play basketball express their athleticism by dominating lesser competition in those two areas. That's why "advanced stats" hated his play this year. Because he either doesn't have the basketball IQ to apply his skills or he just didn't care enough to use it.

[loco_91]

Jaylen Brown has theoretical upside, but I don't see "Franchise Player" in him. He simply wasn't good in college. I do think he can be a good NBA player with his athleticism, but he's more likely to be Jeff Green than Paul George.

[Moranis]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

and then Philly matches it and Boston doesn't have Noel.

[BringToughnessBack]

I just dont see it..until I see him develop a consistent shot in game situations, franchise player is not going to happen. Maybe a miracle will happen in a few years time..who knows..I am no Nostradamus but a bad shooter doesn't suddenly become a good one frequently.

The question is, who spiked Danny's drink last night and why didn't he trade the pick down since we were taking Brown. I bet the Wolves would have made a small trade to move to 3 to pick Dunn since we spread the Dunn rumor for days on end...You know the Suns were not taking Brown..they had PF on the brain last night...and once we traded down with the Wolves, NO is sitting there as well and a potential trade partner as well...Who was going to take Brown in the top 8 besides us...I would like to know that question

[hpantazo]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

and then Philly matches it and Boston doesn't have Noel.

Phili is not matching any high offers on Noel when they still have Okafor and Embiid, who will be up for new contracts soon enough too. Phili will move one of Okafor or Noel soon enough before they hit free agency. I bet we can still trade for Noel right now if we want to with some of our cache of picks and prospects.

[Ilikesports17]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

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[hpantazo]

Jimmy Butler described Jaylen Brown as a young Jimmy Butler. If you think Butler is a franchise player, then Brown can be one as well.

[djbilly33]

That had to be the worst pick at 3! If I knew we were going to waste all 3 first round picks on crappy players I would of traded all the picks then for noel or whoever else we tried to get. Noone we drafted will be on the team long term. Smh, huge disappointment!

[PAOBoston]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

and then Philly matches it and Boston doesn't have Noel.

Why would they match it when they have like 3 other centers in the roster?

[Fafnir]

They might max him just for asset preservation given their cap space surplus, but I'd be shocked if they don't trade him as some point this year.

[Tr1boy]

That had to be the worst pick at 3! If I knew we were going to waste all 3 first round picks on crappy players I would of traded all the picks then for noel or whoever else we tried to get. Noone we drafted will be on the team long term. Smh, huge disappointment!

Are you kidding?? And who would you have chosen?

These guys all showed up and worked out. They listened.

All three 1st round picks have nba bodies

Zizic would prob torch guys like davis, skal during 5-5 play right now. He proved over that he is reliable in 50 plus ganes played. Not like davis and skal

[Tr1boy]

And with brown vs dunn. Would of been on with either. Vut one guy came in twice for a workout and another was playing hidinf and seek

In addition brown scored 14 ppg in his 1st year. Whe dunn avg less than 10 his 1st two seasons. 

[Moranis]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

and then Philly matches it and Boston doesn't have Noel.

Why would they match it when they have like 3 other centers in the roster?

because you don't let valuable players go for nothing when you don't have to.  Philly will match all offers on Noel because there is absolutely no reason not to. 

[BitterJim]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

and then Philly matches it and Boston doesn't have Noel.

I don't think Philly would match a big offer for Noel (especially if you gave them a minor asset not to match).  They'd end up with the same logjam they already had, but at a WAY higher price.  They're best off dealing him at the deadline

[PhoSita]

It's really too early to tell.  I think in the absolute best case he's similar to Jimmy Butler or Andre Iguodala.

But he might end up closer to Jeff Green / Harrison Barnes, or maybe Tyreke Evans.

Probably not ever a "franchise" guy, but maybe a top 3 contributor for a good team.