Jaylen Brown - franchise player?

[LilRip]

Jaylen Brown is the highest pick we've had in a while. And while I'm not a huge fan of his (I'm in the camp that thinks he's more athlete than basketball player), I'm willing to be convinced.

Being drafted third overall comes with the expectation that he probably should become one of the best players (if not the best player) on this team. It doesn't have to happen during his rookie year, but it should probably happen sooner than later. Do you guys think this is likely? Does he have what it takes to be our franchise player ala Paul Pierce?

[hodgy03038]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Jaylen Brown is the highest pick we've had in a while. And while I'm not a huge fan of his (I'm in the camp that thinks he's more athlete than basketball player), I'm willing to be convinced.

Being drafted third overall comes with the expectation that he probably should become one of the best players (if not the best player) on this team. It doesn't have to happen during his rookie year, but it should probably happen sooner than later. Do you guys think this is likely? Does he have what it takes to be our franchise player ala Paul Pierce?

Who knows with these things, think about this 2 years ago Draymond Green was a nobody on the bench, our own highest scorer was 60th pick, Butler the guy we wanted to trade our 3rd pick was the 30th pick and Kawhi Leonard was a solid player coming out of the draft with a pretty poor vert, speed, shooting and passing...it's a lottery (pun intended).

Brown seems like a very intelligent guy with fantastic intangibles so there is a very high ceiling with him.

[Moranis]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

[PAOBoston]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

[Moranis]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

[CoachBo]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

That draft last night was a full-on white flag. The message is clear: We're not competing for anything. Clear step backwards in the Eastern Conference.

[flybono]

Where I lose Ainge, "he made all the picks"?

[PAOBoston]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

[mr. dee]

Jaylen Brown is the highest pick we've had in a while. And while I'm not a huge fan of his (I'm in the camp that thinks he's more athlete than basketball player), I'm willing to be convinced.

Being drafted third overall comes with the expectation that he probably should become one of the best players (if not the best player) on this team. It doesn't have to happen during his rookie year, but it should probably happen sooner than later. Do you guys think this is likely? Does he have what it takes to be our franchise player ala Paul Pierce?

Who knows with these things, think about this 2 years ago Draymond Green was a nobody on the bench, our own highest scorer was 60th pick, Butler the guy we wanted to trade our 3rd pick was the 30th pick and Kawhi Leonard was a solid player coming out of the draft with a pretty poor vert, speed, shooting and passing...it's a lottery (pun intended).

Brown seems like a very intelligent guy with fantastic intangibles so there is a very high ceiling with him.

And this is the trait the you want from franchise players.

The holy trinity of finding a franchise player:

- Work Ethic
- Intelligence
- Will to win

I rarely see guys fail with those traits, especially guys with above average athleticism and skills.

[Tr1boy]

I dont think so

Brown is going to be a weapon like wiggins is

Neither of these guys are Towns or a Leonard or George

[Surferdad]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

For sure.  Now they are still stuck with too many frontcourt guys.  I am really glad Ainge didn't pick a guard at #3 or the C's would be in the same desperation boat.  Ainge kept saying "BPA" but in reality you have to consider roster balance too, or trading partners will have you over a barrel.

[boscel33]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

I see Kawhi Leonard.

[RLewis35]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

Sounds like a lot of teams wanted crowder as part of a deal an we weren't willing to.  Perhaps the Jaylen brown add has something to do with that.  If we can get durant or another star in FA but only if we trade for say Kevin Love or jimmy butler, and Cleveland or Chicago is insisting on crowder, maybe we are more comfortable dealing crowder knowing we have another elite athlete at SF who is under team control with a good contract.

Let's remember we still have assets - Brooklyn picks the next two years, all of our players, trades can still happen it's just that te 3 this year perhaps wasn't carrying as much weight as we liked based on offers.

[BitterJim]

I see Kedrick Brown. I see failure. Did we load up for Kevin Durant? He really must want to come here now. The Knicks are a more attractive team now than the Celtics for KD.

Why would you select a SF, when you already have a SF better than him and then pursue the second best SF in the world.  The selection of Brown clearly indicates to me that Boston doesn't expect to do anything in free agency and is going to go full on rebuilding.  Only thing that makes sense.  If Boston thought it was a real player in free agency it would have made the trade with Philly and picked up Noel who is at a real position of need and that no matter who you sign in free agency would have minutes on the roster.

I don't think one year of Noel is worth the #3 pick.

It isn't one year of Noel, he is a restricted free agent.  He can't leave unless you don't want him to leave.  The trade also included Covington who will be better than Brown at a minimum next year and two late 1sts, which as the draft bore out would have yielded some lottery level talent foreign players for stashing purposes.

If the Celtics really really wanted Noel, they can just offer him a contract then. Covington is a nobody who gets minutes on a historically bad team. Two late firsts? How many more picks did they need last night? I think Philly was more desperate to make a deal with Boston than Boston was with Philly.

Philly's gonna be in a really tough spot when Noel is a FA.  I can't see them matching a max offer, which Noel is likely to get.  They may have to trade him for pennies on the dollar at the trade deadline, and I hope Danny takes advantage