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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2016, 11:56:03 PM »

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What is the obsession with character? Does it win you games? Nope. Talent wins you games.

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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2016, 11:58:56 PM »

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They are all marginal journeymen

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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2016, 11:59:06 PM »

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Tonight was an absolute failure.  Ainge needs to take on a different role within the organization.  They need to bring in someone else to draft players.

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2016, 11:59:08 PM »

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1) Extreme physicality-guys that seek out contact.
2) play hard on both ends (two way players)
3) high character /discipline/strong work ethic

Anyone else pretty happy overall with these picks?

I'm very happy with the draft.  Like just about everyone else, I wish we had taken Davis, but to come out of the draft with four guys who can potentially play and a future #1 is a pretty good outcome.

This.  Open your eyes, guys.  The Celtics are having a very good night.


Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2016, 11:59:21 PM »

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Here's my half full. Brown was way overused at Cal (30% usage as a freshman). We are going to groom him as a rich man's Tony Allen / Jae Crowder. If he reaches that level, it was a decent pick. He's longer and more athletic than both of them. Elite level 3-and-D seems within reach, and if develops the offense beyond that, then great. Maybe he just wasn't ready to be a #1 option on offense at age 19.

As for the rest... two stashes who at least project as rotation guys. They are grown men compared to a Deyonta Davis at this point.

Let's hope that 73/100 thing means Brown can go out and shoot 35% 3PT in the NBA, dunk everything in sight/ on the break, and play All-NBA defense. If so, I'm happy.

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2016, 12:00:27 AM »

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Tonight was an absolute failure.  Ainge needs to take on a different role within the organization.  They need to bring in someone else to draft players.

Lol I wouldn't be opposed to this. Leave the trades to Danny. Let zarren or someone draft.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2016, 12:00:51 AM »

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1) Extreme physicality-guys that seek out contact.
2) play hard on both ends (two way players)
3) high character /discipline/strong work ethic

Anyone else pretty happy overall with these picks?

I'm very happy with the draft.  Like just about everyone else, I wish we had taken Davis, but to come out of the draft with four guys who can potentially play and a future #1 is a pretty good outcome.

I know I'm being pessimistic, even though I've been trying not to be, but I was hoping for a near-term impact player. But most of the picks are draft-and-stash/wait-a-few-years types. And the one pick I did like got traded. And no trades for established players. *sigh*
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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2016, 12:01:33 AM »

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Would it shock anyone if Bentil and Jackson contribute more than Brown next season? Be honest, wouldn't you have felt better if we had come out of draft day with Noel, Covington, Jackson, Bentil, and a bunch of draft and stash Euros plus one or two future picks to add to our pick collection?
« Last Edit: June 24, 2016, 12:18:59 AM by Irish Stew »

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2016, 12:03:34 AM »

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They are all marginal journeymen
No

Danny knows what he is doing

Brown and zizic will help asap

Indeed they will - both will play significant minutes next season.  Demetrius Jackson and Ben Bentil are excellent 2nd rounders.  Bentil may be a subpar man-on-man defender, but he will make many jump shots in his NBA career.  He's an absolute steal where we got him...

Yabusele shot 42.6% from three and 76.5% from the line. 

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2016, 12:04:10 AM »

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I'm worried about Ainge.

Someone needs to get him to a doctor to get his carotids checked.

Clearly, not enough blood is getting to his brain.

Although ... if he had a stroke in the draft room tonight, which would be one explanation, I guess that would sort of be fireworks, so Wyc wouldn't be the liar he appears to be.

The spin in this thread is hilarious.

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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2016, 12:05:17 AM »

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I'm curious whether we'll try to replace Sully with some combination of Bentil, Yabusele and Mickey. Are any of these guys ready for say 20 mpg playing hustle ball?

DJax maybe increases chance that Turner is gone- Rozier gets more minutes as a ball handler and DJax goes to Maine?

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2016, 12:06:55 AM »

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They are all marginal journeymen

They should hire you!

If they did, Butler would be a Celtic

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2016, 12:07:58 AM »

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They are all marginal journeymen

They should hire you!

If they did, Butler would be a Celtic
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Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2016, 12:16:46 AM »

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I'm worried about Ainge.

Someone needs to get him to a doctor to get his carotids checked.

Clearly, not enough blood is getting to his brain.

Although ... if he had a stroke in the draft room tonight, which would be one explanation, I guess that would sort of be fireworks, so Wyc wouldn't be the liar he appears to be.

The spin in this thread is hilarious.

We needed shooters. Where are they?

Guershon can shoot....but he's playing against low level competition.  Plus, he's weak on defense. 

Re: What do our first three 2016 draft picks have in common?
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2016, 12:26:57 AM »

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Umm, none of them can shoot?

Getting these three guys was not the job to be done tonight. The job didn't get done.

See to me this is an unfair argument, albeit the one that I feel the majority of this board has.  What exactly was the job?  If the reports out there are that Butler would have costed no more than Bradley and #3, then yes, totally agree, Ainge screwed the pooch once again.  But if it came down to Butler, or keeping a pick that belongs to the Nets, a team that just traded away 1 of its 2 pro quality players for a late 1st, in next year's draft which is already said to be one of the best in years, I'm not sure what more Ainge could have done.

I was advocating prior to tonight that he should have gotten creative and taken swings for the fences if the superstars weren't there.  If we couldn't get Butler/George/etc then try to land young vets that are unknown commodities (i.e. Exum and Lyles).  But instead we used the pick to do exactly the same.  Take an unknown commodity with a ridiculously high ceiling, and at a position of need no less. 

If you want to complain about #16 I'm on board.  Not a guy I had even heard of prior to tonight, nevermind scouted.  Zizic I think is a steal for us, and clearly Fraschilla agrees.  A legit 7 footer, a legit inside game, and only 19 that can be stashed for a few years; not to mention someone who was universally regarded as a 1st round pick tonight. 

Otherwise Ainge flipped 2 2nds for a pick that can be as high as 15 in a couple years.  A trade anyone in the league would do.  And we'll see what happens with the rest.  Was it the dream night we had all hoped for?  Clearly not.  But I truly think Ainge did the best with an awful situation.  And this is from someone who is a Ainge-hater on draft night.  I think the guy has religiously screwed the pooch when it comes to using picks.  Tonight though, I'm at least understandable and amenable to seeing how it works out for us.

The job was to get something "impactful" as Brad Stevens has said. And it means impactful this year. Not three years from now. That didn't happen. Baring something unforeseen in all likelihood Jaylen doesn't make the all rookie first or 2nd team because backups don't usually make those teams. Maybe the 2nd team. Maybe he could have the 10th best rookie year. Maybe.

This is what's kinda bothering me, too. If the Cs had been terrible the last couple of years, sure, take some draft-and-stash guys, take some players who might make an impact 3 or 4 years from now.

But his team has made the playoffs two years in a row. Won 48 games this season. They need someone who's going to move the needle next season.

Meanwhile, Indy's making faces at us as they pass us by.
1. The off season just started. They can still add pieces to get better in FA. They won 48 games last year. Even minor improvements will make them better.

2. They did try to do something impactful. It just didn't work out. Does trading half your team for Jimmy Butler make sense? Or does trading the 3 pick for a possible one year rental?

Point taken. But it seemed to me like the draft was the best opportunity of the offseason for acquiring an impact player, what with the No. 3 pick and all the other picks. Add in all the usual hype—which I tried to not fall for this time, but I guess I failed—and it's just another letdown. With the exception of acquiring IT, every draft, FA period, and trade deadline of the last two+ years has been a case of "wait til the next draft/FA period/trade deadline." And so we just keep waiting.

I feel like other GMs have figured out Ainge and now he won't be able to parlay the "treasure trove" of assets into impact players, so eventually all these assets will lose value (some of them already have, seemingly). Add in the rising cap, and just about every team will have tons of money, making Boston's first-cap-space-in-20-years asset less valuable as well.

Oh well. I'm just venting.
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