Rumor: Celtics trade with Bucks, Middleton and Monroe...

[SaCaCh]

My guess this is a Danny leak to put fear into the 6er's and show them it's gonna take two decent players to get it done.

[Robb]

I actually think if you take Monroe out its a good deal. Smart, 16, 23 for Middleton.

Monroe because of his ineffectiveness and albatross contract is the burden we'd have to carry to make the deal, I'm afraid. They're trying to get out from under him in this deal.

I think it's a lot more likely that this is in conjunction with trading something for Noel.

[meangreenmachine]

16, 23, 31, 35 and Bradley for Middleton and 10 would be great. Use the 3 on Dunn and 10 on Poeltl.

Not sure I want Monroe's contract...

[LarBrd33]

"According to sources, the Bucks and Celtics are still exploring a potential deal that would send Khris Middleton to the Celtics. Middleton, who can also play small forward, is coming off a breakthrough season. He averaged 18.2 points and 3.8 rebounds. He is a top-flight shooter, connecting on 40 percent of his treys last season."

"One of the trade scenarios, a source said, is packaging Khris Middleton with veteran center Greg Monroe, whom the Bucks have been seriously shopping. It is known the Celtics have had interest in Monroe for a long time. In return for Middleton and Monroe, the Bucks could possibly acquire two first-round picks from the Celtics in today’s draft: Nos. 16 and 23, along with another player."

Source: http://hoopshype.com/storyline/khris-middleton-trade/

If you get Middleton without giving up #3, that would be incredible.  I don't totally get the logic leap, though.  Just a couple days ago we were rumored to be offering #3 for Middleton (which would be a good deal for us) and the Bucks were turning us down.

Throwing this one in the "posturing"/"fake rumor" bin.

[Robb]

16, 23, and Bradley for Middleton alone would be great. Use the 3 on Dunn.

Not sure I want Monroe's contract...

See my above point. The Bucks wouldn't even trade Middleton straight up for the 3. They're not going to deal him for non-lottery flotsam plus Bradley. The cost to do business here is taking on Monroe.

[crownontherocks]

Could be the reason we didnt go after T young.  But if you can get them two without the 3rd pick. Lets get it done

[hwangjini_1]

"According to sources, the Bucks and Celtics are still exploring a potential deal that would send Khris Middleton to the Celtics. Middleton, who can also play small forward, is coming off a breakthrough season. He averaged 18.2 points and 3.8 rebounds. He is a top-flight shooter, connecting on 40 percent of his treys last season."

"One of the trade scenarios, a source said, is packaging Khris Middleton with veteran center Greg Monroe, whom the Bucks have been seriously shopping. It is known the Celtics have had interest in Monroe for a long time. In return for Middleton and Monroe, the Bucks could possibly acquire two first-round picks from the Celtics in today’s draft: Nos. 16 and 23, along with another player."

Source: http://hoopshype.com/storyline/khris-middleton-trade/

If you get Middleton without giving up #3, that would be incredible.  I don't totally get the logic leap, though.  Just a couple days ago we were rumored to be offering #3 for Middleton (which would be a good deal for us) and the Bucks were turning us down.

Throwing this one in the "posturing"/"fake rumor" bin.

why this one but not the first one?

[meangreenmachine]

16, 23, and Bradley for Middleton alone would be great. Use the 3 on Dunn.

Not sure I want Monroe's contract...

See my above point. The Bucks wouldn't even trade Middleton straight up for the 3. They're not going to deal him for non-lottery flotsam plus Bradley. The cost to do business here is taking on Monroe.

Maybe. Or maybe they covet Bradley? After all, Parker is more of a three and wants to be their offensive juggernaut. Moving Middelton for Bradley allows them to put Parker at three, give more shooting opportunities to Parker and stellar defense at the two.

[crimson_stallion]

Boston ends up with middleton, monroe and noel?

So we get Monroe, who couldn't play next to Drummond, and Noel, who couldn't play next to Okafor. What a fantastically convoluted way to completely implode.

Neither Detroit nor Phily had three shooters like Thomas, Bradley and Middleton on the court at once - that largely offsets any front court shooting concerns.

Noel would be the perfect guy to cover Monroe's defensive limitations, and Monroe actually improved his midrange jumper significantly last year (remember hes only 25 too - not yet a finished product).

Monroe is a far less one dimensional player then Okafor is.  He can pass, rebound, get to the line, and has a better jumper.  Okafor can do nothing bar score in the post.

I don't see any evidence that Monroe improved anything. His shooting has been all over the place, and isn't appreciably better now than it was 2 or 5 years ago. And he still takes the bulk of his shots within 10 ft.

Monroe ahot 45% from 3-10 feet, 43% from 10-16 feet and 39% on twos >16 feet.  All were career highs.

[Atzar]

"According to sources, the Bucks and Celtics are still exploring a potential deal that would send Khris Middleton to the Celtics. Middleton, who can also play small forward, is coming off a breakthrough season. He averaged 18.2 points and 3.8 rebounds. He is a top-flight shooter, connecting on 40 percent of his treys last season."

"One of the trade scenarios, a source said, is packaging Khris Middleton with veteran center Greg Monroe, whom the Bucks have been seriously shopping. It is known the Celtics have had interest in Monroe for a long time. In return for Middleton and Monroe, the Bucks could possibly acquire two first-round picks from the Celtics in today’s draft: Nos. 16 and 23, along with another player."

Source: http://hoopshype.com/storyline/khris-middleton-trade/

If you get Middleton without giving up #3, that would be incredible.  I don't totally get the logic leap, though.  Just a couple days ago we were rumored to be offering #3 for Middleton (which would be a good deal for us) and the Bucks were turning us down.

Throwing this one in the "posturing"/"fake rumor" bin.

To be fair, it'll land in the bin right next to that 3-for-Middleton swap.

None of this stuff can be taken as truth until it's officially announced. 

[footey]

Boston ends up with middleton, monroe and noel?

So we get Monroe, who couldn't play next to Drummond, and Noel, who couldn't play next to Okafor. What a fantastically convoluted way to completely implode.

Always looking at the glass half full, Koz.  Nice.

[Tr1boy]

So 16, 23, & a player would net the Celtics Middleton & Monroe?

That sounds too good to be true.

sure does...especially for Milwaukee...why would they give up a potential (All)-Star in Middleton and Monroe for picks??? but i do like it...

Like seeing mayhem before the draft....

They already have giannis and parker

They can let go of middleton. Plus they want to get rid of monroes salary

Trade

To Bucks: Amir, jerebko,  rozier, 16, 23, 31
To celtics: middleton, monroe

#3: Dunn

[Robb]

"According to sources, the Bucks and Celtics are still exploring a potential deal that would send Khris Middleton to the Celtics. Middleton, who can also play small forward, is coming off a breakthrough season. He averaged 18.2 points and 3.8 rebounds. He is a top-flight shooter, connecting on 40 percent of his treys last season."

"One of the trade scenarios, a source said, is packaging Khris Middleton with veteran center Greg Monroe, whom the Bucks have been seriously shopping. It is known the Celtics have had interest in Monroe for a long time. In return for Middleton and Monroe, the Bucks could possibly acquire two first-round picks from the Celtics in today’s draft: Nos. 16 and 23, along with another player."

Source: http://hoopshype.com/storyline/khris-middleton-trade/

If you get Middleton without giving up #3, that would be incredible.  I don't totally get the logic leap, though.  Just a couple days ago we were rumored to be offering #3 for Middleton (which would be a good deal for us) and the Bucks were turning us down.

Throwing this one in the "posturing"/"fake rumor" bin.

The only way it makes sense is if it's the second part of a deal where we're acquiring another asset and packaging it here. The smoke from the Sixers makes me think Danny could be using the 3 to get Okafor, then it's Okafor, 16, 23 for Middleton and we might need to take back Monroe.

[Robb]

16, 23, and Bradley for Middleton alone would be great. Use the 3 on Dunn.

Not sure I want Monroe's contract...

See my above point. The Bucks wouldn't even trade Middleton straight up for the 3. They're not going to deal him for non-lottery flotsam plus Bradley. The cost to do business here is taking on Monroe.

Maybe. Or maybe they covet Bradley? After all, Parker is more of a three and wants to be their offensive juggernaut. Moving Middelton for Bradley allows them to put Parker at three, give more shooting opportunities to Parker and stellar defense at the two.

If they coveted Bradley they would have just asked for him and the 3 and we'd have a deal done by now.

[The Oracle]

Boston ends up with middleton, monroe and noel?

So we get Monroe, who couldn't play next to Drummond, and Noel, who couldn't play next to Okafor. What a fantastically convoluted way to completely implode.

Neither Detroit nor Phily had three shooters like Thomas, Bradley and Middleton on the court at once - that largely offsets any front court shooting concerns.

Noel would be the perfect guy to cover Monroe's defensive limitations, and Monroe actually improved his midrange jumper significantly last year (remember hes only 25 too - not yet a finished product).

Monroe is a far less one dimensional player then Okafor is.  He can pass, rebound, get to the line, and has a better jumper.  Okafor can do nothing bar score in the post.

Who in their right mind would ever consider Monroe/Noel a viable frontcourt pairing?  Noel would be forced to guard stretch guys and be a mile away from helping Monroe do anything.  The spacing on the offensive end would be the worst in the league.  I.T. wouldn't get to the rim ever with both Monroe's and Noel's defenders standing on the edge of the lane at all times.  It is insanity that people think this type of pairing is viable.