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Re: Woj Celtics more than likely keeping pick
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2016, 08:16:25 PM »

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ESPN says Dunn is favorite for the third pick. Great Danny leak.

translation: come and get him Chicago and Philly

Yeah, I have a hard time believing that all this Dunn stuff is anything but an attempt to get someone to trade for him.
Dunn seemed to become a borderline consensus 3rd pick out of nowhere.  How'd that happen?  Is he really that good or are the teams below Boston in the draft leaking nonsense with hopes Boston will take him off the table?

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« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2016, 08:16:41 PM »

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So, Minny is also supposedly in love with Dunn. At the very least, couldn't we trade down with them and pick up some extra assets in the process? I'm not sure what we could get though (don't really have interest in Dieng anymore).

Muhammad? Future protected first? Dieng? Those would seem to be the options.
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2016, 08:20:01 PM »

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So, Minny is also supposedly in love with Dunn. At the very least, couldn't we trade down with them and pick up some extra assets in the process? I'm not sure what we could get though (don't really have interest in Dieng anymore).

Muhammad? Future protected first? Dieng? Those would seem to be the options.

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. Personally, I'd rather have Noel and Covington.
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« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2016, 08:21:36 PM »

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ESPN says Dunn is favorite for the third pick. Great Danny leak.

translation: come and get him Chicago and Philly

Yeah, I have a hard time believing that all this Dunn stuff is anything but an attempt to get someone to trade for him.
Dunn seemed to become a borderline consensus 3rd pick out of nowhere.  How'd that happen?  Is he really that good or are the teams below Boston in the draft leaking nonsense with hopes Boston will take him off the table?


He's always been a popular prospect among evaluators, and I'm sure Danny likes him, but I'm convinced this is nothing more than a ploy to force someone to trade for #3. However, Dunn definitely seems to be Danny's "type." Ultimately, I still think Jaylen Brown is Danny's guy.
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« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2016, 08:22:35 PM »

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So, Minny is also supposedly in love with Dunn. At the very least, couldn't we trade down with them and pick up some extra assets in the process? I'm not sure what we could get though (don't really have interest in Dieng anymore).

Muhammad? Future protected first? Dieng? Those would seem to be the options.

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. Personally, I'd rather have Noel and Covington.

I wouldn't mind Dunn for Dieng and Brown/Bender/Murray, but that seems unlikely.
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2016, 08:24:45 PM »

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 If Sixers want Dunn at #3 you get a proven player.

IF Noel and Okafor were in this years draft you have to believe both go #1 and 2.

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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2016, 08:26:12 PM »

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So, Minny is also supposedly in love with Dunn. At the very least, couldn't we trade down with them and pick up some extra assets in the process? I'm not sure what we could get though (don't really have interest in Dieng anymore).

Muhammad? Future protected first? Dieng? Those would seem to be the options.

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. Personally, I'd rather have Noel and Covington.

I wouldn't mind Dunn for Dieng and Brown/Bender/Murray, but that seems unlikely.

I would love that.
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2016, 08:26:49 PM »

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If Sixers want Dunn at #3 you get a proven player.

IF Noel and Okafor were in this years draft you have to believe both go #1 and 2.
no. this is false.

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« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2016, 08:29:19 PM »

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Am surprised Bender is still in the mix. Things probably went pretty well yesterday.

I have vacillated among these three guys as my pick, so I would be pretty happy with any one of them, particularly if we had a deal in place for one of our point guards (if the pick is Dunn).

If Bender is drafted, could he be coaxed to continue playing abroad for a year or two more, so that he doesn't take a roster place?  He won't get any playing time on this team next year.  Wonder if they would ask his agent that before deciding whether or not to draft him.  Would be an investment for the future, nothing at all wrong with that.

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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2016, 08:38:31 PM »

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So, Minny is also supposedly in love with Dunn. At the very least, couldn't we trade down with them and pick up some extra assets in the process? I'm not sure what we could get though (don't really have interest in Dieng anymore).

Muhammad? Future protected first? Dieng? Those would seem to be the options.

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. Personally, I'd rather have Noel and Covington.

I wouldn't mind Dunn for Dieng and Brown/Bender/Murray, but that seems unlikely.

I would.  I love Dieng, but his deal is up after next season, we don't have nearly enough information on Bender, Murray is a tweener who doesn't have a good handle, iirc, and can't guard anyone, and Brown doesn't know how to play basketball, lol ;D. Of course Thibodeau wants Dunn - he's a great defender at the point of attack.  No way would I ever let Minnesota get him.

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« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2016, 08:40:57 PM »

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If the C's take Dunn, why wouldn't they do 16 and Smart for Okafor or Noel?

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« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2016, 08:46:12 PM »

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I continue to wonder why many of the people who think Bender is too risky are just fine with taking Brown -- a great athlete who doesn't shoot well, has demonstrated an extremely shaky feel for the game and has a statistical profile that has never translated into a good NBA player.

Come on man. "statistical profile that has never translated into a good NBA player." What other nebulous comments can you make without proving? You think every good NBA player had a better year than Jaylen Brown at 18?

Watch an interview. Watch his high school tape from only one year ago. One of the top hs players of his class. Polished, articulate, and hard working kid who wanted to go to a top ranked university- can't blame him for that. Super young, so I'm not sure that we want to go that route at this point in the development, but let's not pretend that scouts haven't been impressed by his size, athleticism, defensive potential, and ability to get to the rim.

Maybe you could familiarize yourself with some data. Here's a great article that outlines exactly why Brown has enormous Bust potential.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4723335/not-the-model-choice-would-celtics-roll-dice-with-jaylen-brown

In that article his statistical profile is mentioned as being the 101st ranked draft eligible player.  The real risk is that they would be drafting a player who looks the part of a basketball player and negatively impacts the game. If you listened to the Locked on NBA Podcast with Kevin Pelton as well you'd get a scouts perspective that although he looks like a basketball player, he has a negative impact on the game when he plays and that's almost unheard of for players that are being considered so high.

Brown might hit, but if he did, he's going to be one of the only players ever who took less productive college careers and turned them into successful ones.
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« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2016, 11:11:17 PM »

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for those of you interested in hearing more about Dunn , listen to a take from don Maclean on bball breakdown podcast , he talks of his underrated shooting and a little tidbit about his thoughts on James young before he was drafted

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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2016, 11:20:31 PM »

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If the C's take Dunn, why wouldn't they do 16 and Smart for Okafor or Noel?

I expect something like that to play out down the road .

Either Rozier  , Smart , Dunn leaving to bring in a franchise player

Hopefully Boogie .   

Both Nets picks will have to be used I think.

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« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2016, 11:23:40 PM »

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If Sixers want Dunn at #3 you get a proven player.

IF Noel and Okafor were in this years draft you have to believe both go #1 and 2.
no. this is false.

That's ridiculous. No they wouldn't, especially if you had NBA tape on them.

If you could include their NBA tape, Okafor and Noel probably go in the top 10, but neither has the potential of Simmons, Ingram, or even Dunn/Brown/Bender without any tape on them. All those guys have flaws, but not flaws that seem I fixable at the NBA level yet.

If your judging them by how they looked coming into the league, Okafor probably goes by #5 and Noel by 7, but that's not the way it is. We have game tape on them against NBA players.

Okafor can't defend anyone who's skilled past 18 feet, and Noel is very limited on offense. Noel is close to a pay raise, and Okafor is a very flawed prospect that hasn't shown much improvement in his weaknesses through his 1st season (though that could still change)

It's going to take more than Okafor or Noel to get Ainge to give them #3. Covington AT LEAST, if not Saric and/or Kings, Lakers pick.

Al Jefferson isn't worth the 3rd pick in any draft, and Tyson Chandler with a year left on his deal isn't either.