The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)

[A Future of Stevens]

I saw they were down 10 halfway through the 4th and was mildly disappointed.

TOO BAD I FORGOT THIS IS THE NETS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WOOOOO

Wait they won?!?!?!?!?! They were down 12 with 7:00 or so to go so I stopped checking it and went to bed.

My god I love the taste of Brooklyn fans tears.

[Granath]

Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   

[nickagneta]

I don't watch every Nets game or flow their score during games anymore. I am 100% confident that this Nets team is the worst in the league, have been since the season started. I am dead sure they will have the worst record at the end of the year.

But the NBA lottery scares the crap out of my hopes for a top two pick. I want Ball or Fultz and the only way that happens is if the ping pong balls are good to us, which they never have been.

[clevelandceltic]

Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   

Honestly, iM not saying this from a perspective of hoping the Nets end up with the worst record. Im saying it just based on the numbers. Six or seven wins is alot of wins to make up considering that they only have won 9 in 45 games. Do you really expect them to win 6 or 7 in 35 games? This is also the assumption that the teams infront of them do not win a game the rest of the year which wont happen. 

[CroCorvus]

This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

[nickagneta]

This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.

[bopna]

This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

Celtic Basketball from 94 to 2007 was awful and terrible...the only bright spot being 2002 but that was foools gold ..The Fakers must have a period of 10 Freakin yrs of crap...yeah they deserve it.

[bopna]

Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   

Honestly, iM not saying this from a perspective of hoping the Nets end up with the worst record. Im saying it just based on the numbers. Six or seven wins is alot of wins to make up considering that they only have won 9 in 45 games. Do you really expect them to win 6 or 7 in 35 games? This is also the assumption that the teams infront of them do not win a game the rest of the year which wont happen.

I actually do wish the Nets win sometimes...specially if it specifically helps us like I wouldn't mind a victory against the Hawks, Cavs or Toronto really...the rest of the way they can suck.

[mef730]

This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.

I agree. I have no beef with the Nets. I'm rooting against them because they are in our way, just as I have no beef with the Atlanta Falcons. I wish them both well, unless they are between us and something we want.

I grew up hating the Lakers, Sixers and Knicks. They're personal.

When I started this post, I was thinking that the Nets have a ridiculously easy schedule and could make up the gap. But, after running the numbers below, I'm feeling better, since PHX and LAL also have easier second half schedules. I believe the numbers, not my intuition.

I'm not ready to call the season over, although a statistical analysis would show that it's not going to be easy for the Nets to make up the gap. I think they still have three real competitors for that bottom spot: LAL, Phoenix and Miami (in declining order of "challenger power"). There are currently 12 teams playing >.500, 2 playing at .500 and 14 <.500.

Sadly, strength of schedule counts, and for the Nets schedule gets a bit easier: They've played 25 games so far against teams >.500, 20 games against teams <.500. Of their remaining 37 games, 23 are against teams that are currently .500 or below (two of the 23 are against teams at .500). Of those 23, only six are teams that are .600 or better (including two against us). I'm assuming that Jeremy Lin is out until Mar 1. After 3/1, they have 24 games, 15 of which are against teams below .500 (currently). I have to believe that they are a better team with a well-rested Lin than without one.

Not everything is that bad. They're on the road for 20 of those 37 games. They have no reason to play Brook Lopez in April. Hopefully, the east stays bunched up at the top, because two of their last three games are against the Bulls.

By comparison, the Lakers have 33 games left. Of those games, 15 are against .500 or better teams, 18 against the rest. 16/15 home/road (or vice versa).

Like the Nets, Phoenix also has 37 games remaining, with 22 remaining against <.500 teams.

Miami has 36 games remaining, with 24 of those against the below .500 crowd. They have two games left against BKN, so let's hope the Heat show up for both of those.

The Lakers do seem to be the biggest threat right now, only five games ahead (seven in the win column, three in the loss). Phoenix, at six games back, represents a threat if Eric Bledsoe goes down. The Lakers and Suns have two games against each other remaining.

Of course, if Lopez goes down for any extended period of time, none of the above matters.

After having looked at the numbers, I feel better than I thought I would when I first began to look at the numbers.

Mike

[nickagneta]

This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.

I agree. I have no beef with the Nets. I'm rooting against them because they are in our way, just as I have no beef with the Atlanta Falcons. I wish them both well, unless they are between us and something we want.

I grew up hating the Lakers, Sixers and Knicks. They're personal.

When I started this post, I was thinking that the Nets have a ridiculously easy schedule and could make up the gap. But, after running the numbers below, I'm feeling better, since PHX and LAL also have easier second half schedules. I believe the numbers, not my intuition.

I'm not ready to call the season over, although a statistical analysis would show that it's not going to be easy for the Nets to make up the gap. I think they still have three real competitors for that bottom spot: LAL, Phoenix and Miami (in declining order of "challenger power"). There are currently 12 teams playing >.500, 2 playing at .500 and 14 <.500.

Sadly, strength of schedule counts, and for the Nets schedule gets a bit easier: They've played 25 games so far against teams >.500, 20 games against teams <.500. Of their remaining 37 games, 23 are against teams that are currently .500 or below (two of the 23 are against teams at .500). Of those 23, only six are teams that are .600 or better (including two against us). I'm assuming that Jeremy Lin is out until Mar 1. After 3/1, they have 24 games, 15 of which are against teams below .500 (currently). I have to believe that they are a better team with a well-rested Lin than without one.

Not everything is that bad. They're on the road for 20 of those 37 games. They have no reason to play Brook Lopez in April. Hopefully, the east stays bunched up at the top, because two of their last three games are against the Bulls.

By comparison, the Lakers have 33 games left. Of those games, 15 are against .500 or better teams, 18 against the rest. 16/15 home/road (or vice versa).

Like the Nets, Phoenix also has 37 games remaining, with 22 remaining against <.500 teams.

Miami has 36 games remaining, with 24 of those against the below .500 crowd. They have two games left against BKN, so let's hope the Heat show up for both of those.

The Lakers do seem to be the biggest threat right now, only five games ahead (seven in the win column, three in the loss). Phoenix, at six games back, represents a threat if Eric Bledsoe goes down. The Lakers and Suns have two games against each other remaining.

Of course, if Lopez goes down for any extended period of time, none of the above matters.

After having looked at the numbers, I feel better than I thought I would when I first began to look at the numbers.

Mike

Excellent stuff as usual Mike...TP

[Boris Badenov]

Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

[CelticGuardian]

What are the chances of Caris LeVert spoiling our fun? They seem too far back from the other bad teams and they've never had winning streak to speak of.

[apc]

Due to fact the Nest are not purposely tanking, I think they should be rewarded with a few more ping pong balls.

[nickagneta]

What are the chances of Caris LeVert spoiling our fun? They seem too far back from the other bad teams and they've never had winning streak to speak of.

None. One hot player will never be enough to turn around that abysmal team to start playing .400 ball, which is probably what the Nets would have to play in order to not have the worst record.

[mef730]

Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike