The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)

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The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.

This 100%.  It sure opens up the options for us.  I kind of hope we keep the pick, but that might not be the best thing for the team.

[Rondo9]

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[slightly biased bias fan]

The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.

This 100%.  It sure opens up the options for us.  I kind of hope we keep the pick, but that might not be the best thing for the team.

At the moment Cousins is the only talent worthy of the Brooklyn pick with the possibility of being traded and unless Sacramento go on a huge losing streak, he ain't being moved till the end of the season. Given Butler's rise, he isn't being moved, nor is George as Bird has repeatedly stated.

If I was Brooklyn I would be shopping Lopez for a low lottery pick right now, because he is becoming more and more irrelevant as the season passes and next season they aren't getting anyone substantial either.

[The One]

-7.7

That is Brooklyn's net rating...http://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/#!?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

That is the worst in the Association.

Way to go Brooklyn!!!

[mef730]

Last night was one of the best nights our draft pick had (on a night that BKN wasn't playing). 76ers won (after nearly giving me a heart attack along the way; get off your knees, guys, you're blowing the game), Mavs won, Suns won, Lakers won.

And let's not forget this: Since we switch picks with the Nets, every win for us makes their eventual pick worse, helping us in 2018.

Summary:

We are now about 40% of the way through the season.

The Nets are now a game "ahead" in the draft pick, the first time that has happened this year.

There is not a single team in the Western Conference with fewer than 11 wins. That's three games ahead of the Nets. Even better, there are three teams with 11 wins and only four wins separate last place in the west and the eighth freakin' playoff spot. Yes, eight teams are within four wins of each other. That's parity and, hopefully, it means that they will each win enough games against each other to be mediocre, but still better than BKN.

Okay, Miami and Philly still suck (10 and 9 wins, respectively). But the next worst team in the east is Detroit with 16 wins. Yup, twice the number that BKN has.

2016 sucked for Brooklyn. May the suckage continue into 2017.

Mike

[libermaniac]

There is not a single team in the Western Conference with fewer than 11 wins. That's three games ahead of the Nets. Even better, there are three teams with 11 wins and only four wins separate last place in the west and the eighth freakin' playoff spot. Yes, eight teams are within four wins of each other. That's parity and, hopefully, it means that they will each win enough games against each other to be mediocre, but still better than BKN.

The other thing it hopefully means is that teams will have less incentive to tank, since the playoffs are within reach.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Honestly the further this college season goes, the less impressed with this draft I am.  I really thought it was going to be more special, but top prospects like Dennis "T-Rex" Johnson Jr. and Malik Monk look like shoot first defensive liabilities.  Josh Jackson looks pretty good, but he's not like a once in a generation talent by any means.  I am basically Fultz, Jackson or bust right now.

[hpantazo]

Honestly the further this college season goes, the less impressed with this draft I am.  I really thought it was going to be more special, but top prospects like Dennis "T-Rex" Johnson Jr. and Malik Monk look like shoot first defensive liabilities.  Josh Jackson looks pretty good, but he's not like a once in a generation talent by any means.  I am basically Fultz, Jackson or bust right now.

Agreed. Considering the buzz this draft class has, and that most of the top tier players are guards and we have a ton of guard depth, if we don't see any of these guys as a generational , franchise player talent, then it makes total sense to trade this pick now while the value is sky high.

For example Josh Jackson looks good, but if the most we can hope for from him is a Jimmy Butler level ceiling, then you absolutely trade that pick for Butler who is ready now to help and is already at his peak.

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

[saltlover]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.

[max215]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

[hpantazo]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.

Yeah. Also, Winslow has missed a lot of games this season already, and James Johnson has filled in really well for him.

[jpotter33]

I'm hoping they can beat the Kings tonight, though they're without Whiteside. Up 15-8 right now. A Heat win would be killing two birds with one stone.

[SCeltic34]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.

I agree it makes the most sense for Brooklyn to trade Lopez, but I believe management has said that they're planning to hang on to him.  I guess we'll see.  I'm not sure which playoff bound team makes sense for him.

I've seen trade ideas on the Nets page from their fans.  Downright delusional stuff, like proposing Lopez to the C's in exchange for Jaylen Brown, Zeller, and a future first rounder, or Lopez to the Lakers for Ingram and Nick Young.

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.

I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.