Who has less Leverage?

[Csfan1984]

I think C's have the most leverage after Teague, Rose and Hill all move. 76ers should just trade Covington and the two low 1st for Rozier, 35 and 45. Rozier looks better than most the PGs in this draft other than Dunn. No need to really push for more. C's can take Dunn and Covington replaces Turner. 76ers get a decent PG with potential.

[Celtics18]

With three PGs being traded in the last hour, Philly is running low on alternatives.

Yea that certainly does not help that teague and rose are off the market.

Not sure it matters if they actually plan to use Simmons as a PG.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Xl61KBWb8

I think they need shooters more than anything.

I agree. Simmons should be the primary ball handler.

Perhaps from a point forward position like Lebron, but certainly not as a guard like they're talking about doing. That'd be a disaster.

I think they need a point guard but someone who can share and isn't ball dominant. Also who can shoot.

If that team projects they way they want, they probably will feed the ball to Embiid/Simmons to create offense.  Shooters are important.  Honestly, Avery Bradley as a default PG would make sense in Philly.  He can shoot, defend and handle the ball a little.   Bradley + #16 for Noel might make sense for both teams if Boston can land a SG with the #3.

I've seen Ben Simmons called a 6'10 Rajon Rondo in the sense that he can run the fast break, handle the ball and pass, but will be a liability without the ball in his hands (can't shoot).  So for the most part they probably want him creating offense.

I like that idea:

Bradley and 16 for Noel.  Then draft Hield.

[Csfan1984]

With three PGs being traded in the last hour, Philly is running low on alternatives.

Yea that certainly does not help that teague and rose are off the market.

Not sure it matters if they actually plan to use Simmons as a PG.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Xl61KBWb8

I think they need shooters more than anything.

I agree. Simmons should be the primary ball handler.

Perhaps from a point forward position like Lebron, but certainly not as a guard like they're talking about doing. That'd be a disaster.

I think they need a point guard but someone who can share and isn't ball dominant. Also who can shoot.

If that team projects they way they want, they probably will feed the ball to Embiid/Simmons to create offense.  Shooters are important.  Honestly, Avery Bradley as a default PG would make sense in Philly.  He can shoot, defend and handle the ball a little.   Bradley + #16 for Noel might make sense for both teams if Boston can land a SG with the #3.

I've seen Ben Simmons called a 6'10 Rajon Rondo in the sense that he can run the fast break, handle the ball and pass, but will be a liability without the ball in his hands (can't shoot).  So for the most part they probably want him creating offense.

I like that idea:

Bradley and 16 for Noel.  Then draft Hield.

Bradley for Noel straight up is an overpay by C's let alone adding 16

[PaulP34]

We shouldn't trade the pick unless its the pick and a player, nothing more. If they ask to much then just pick Jaylen Brown. Dunn is useless he can't shoot n is no better then Smart. We already have that. Get the big athletic kid who can block shots and dunk on Lebron

[colincb]

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Per source,Sixers still talking to Celtics, but potential trade as of this moment is "bleak", as BOS is speaking to several teams about #3.

Philly talk show host.

[celticsclay]

With three PGs being traded in the last hour, Philly is running low on alternatives.

Yea that certainly does not help that teague and rose are off the market.

Not sure it matters if they actually plan to use Simmons as a PG.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Xl61KBWb8

I think they need shooters more than anything.

I saw some reputable tweeter (forget which one because I've been cruising them all) that the 76ers were very much trying to trade for Teague or another vet PG.  I've been saying all year that Simmons is the best prospect, but he should not run your team as a rookie.  Not if you want any of the players around him to develop, at least.

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress

    The 76ers were involved in trade discussions for both George Hill and Jeff Teague up until the very last minute. In the market for vet PG.

lol. There goes the theory they don't think they need a point guard.

[Bobshot]

If Ainge wants to get better next year, he has to trade the 3 for Noel or Okafor. He's running out of options.

[Bobshot]

I think C's have the most leverage after Teague, Rose and Hill all move. 76ers should just trade Covington and the two low 1st for Rozier, 35 and 45. Rozier looks better than most the PGs in this draft other than Dunn. No need to really push for more. C's can take Dunn and Covington replaces Turner. 76ers get a decent PG with potential.

Unlikely that ploy will work. Rozier didn't play enough to show anything last year. They might get Covington, however, in a Dunn deal for Noel or Okafor.

Philly wants Dunn, and they want to unload a center. They have a lot of incentive to deal.

[celticsclay]

Philly really needs a trade. They have the most unbalanced roster in the NBA and won 15 games last year. They may have the least leverage of any team in the league right now in trying to offload one of their bigs. The market rate for Okafor has spoken to that.

[MBunge]

The team that made the playoffs and still has a couple of, essentially, unprotected draft picks coming from the Nets has more leverage.

Mike

[LarBrd33]

Philly really needs a trade. They have the most unbalanced roster in the NBA and won 15 games last year. They may have the least leverage of any team in the league right now in trying to offload one of their bigs. The market rate for Okafor has spoken to that.

We don't really know what the market rate for Okafor is yet. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I'd say we have more leverage because we have more desirable assets. I think the 3rd is better than any of the Sixers players right now, as evidenced by the trade rumors.

On top of that, apparently Dunn is the prized 3rd player in this draft by numerous teams (Bulls, Bucks, Pelicans, Suns, to name a few). It seems like we have more leverage even though our roster is just as lob-sided. 

[celticsclay]

Philly really needs a trade. They have the most unbalanced roster in the NBA and won 15 games last year. They may have the least leverage of any team in the league right now in trying to offload one of their bigs. The market rate for Okafor has spoken to that.

We don't really know what the market rate for Okafor is yet.

I don't really understand why you like to share rumors from all sorts of sources, but now you have just about NBA writer saying they have been unable to get a top 5 pick for Okafor and you don't want to accept it.

[LarBrd33]

Philly really needs a trade. They have the most unbalanced roster in the NBA and won 15 games last year. They may have the least leverage of any team in the league right now in trying to offload one of their bigs. The market rate for Okafor has spoken to that.

We don't really know what the market rate for Okafor is yet.

I don't really understand why you like to share rumors from all sorts of sources, but now you have just about NBA writer saying they have been unable to get a top 5 pick for Okafor and you don't want to accept it.

It's possible they offered #3 for Okafor.  It's possible we aren't ready to do it yet.  But as I've said repeatedly, it makes no sense for us to trade for Okafor until we first see if Ingram/Simmons falls... and exhaust all options in acquiring a star.   So until I see us receive an offer of Okafor for #3 and instead decide to draft another guard, I'm assuming we'd take it.

If Ainge is willing to do it, he'd be dumb to do it before weighing every option first and see how things shake out closer to the draft.

[celticsclay]

Philly really needs a trade. They have the most unbalanced roster in the NBA and won 15 games last year. They may have the least leverage of any team in the league right now in trying to offload one of their bigs. The market rate for Okafor has spoken to that.

We don't really know what the market rate for Okafor is yet.

I don't really understand why you like to share rumors from all sorts of sources, but now you have just about NBA writer saying they have been unable to get a top 5 pick for Okafor and you don't want to accept it.

It's possible they offered #3 for Okafor.  It's possible we aren't ready to do it yet.  But as I've said repeatedly, it makes no sense for us to trade for Okafor until we first see if Ingram/Simmons falls... and exhaust all options in acquiring a star.   So until I see us receive an offer of Okafor for #3 and instead decide to draft another guard, I'm assuming we'd take it.

For no other reason than that you personally like Okafor??