No One (Except Philly) Wants to Trade With Danny

[Scintan]

The Lakers raved about him, Phili is drooling over him, the Bulls and TWolves are also reported to have strong interest in him. Several other teams consider him easily the best PG in the draft with future all-star potential. The demand is legit. That's why Ainge will take Dunn and trade him later on if teams call his bluff.

Teams saying that they like a player is not the same as a player being in demand.  For a player to be in demand, he has to actually be in demand.  This is a two player draft.  After that, it's a bunch of fit/hope guys that some teams will like, some will hate, and some won't be able to care less about.  Also, to point to your own words:

Something that we have to keep in mind in the next two days is, everything we are hearing now is old news and/or false , or were trade talks that were old and died already. Every GM has said this about draft rumors and trade deadline rumors. The stuff that shows up in the media is the stuff that is already dead or inaccurate. The real potential deals haven't been reported yet. Like the Pierce/KG-Nets deal, or the Jeff Green/Perk deal, or the Delonte West and Jeff Green for Ray Allen deal, etc.

[CelticSooner]

Ainge isn't going to offer up any but maybe one of the best players on the team in a trade. It's understandable to not want to gut the roster and ultimately take a step back if you aren't close to being a contender.

[Beat LA]

I don't understand why DA always has to be so desparate to move it.  He needs to not be so blatant with some of this stuff imo.   I like Danny Ainge and all and trust he can evaluate and make the right moves in the end but it's becoming predictable where other GM's have him figuerd out.  We need to be more loyal to our own team and players in ways where he is hurting their value to us and around the league.

There are good players this draft. DA is basically saying if i can do better i'll do it though. For Parker or Butler or whoever. Obviously but jaylen brown is a good player. So is Bender.

he needs to anticipate better and draft better himself and get himself in position to get guys like Butler though if he really wants them. He could have drafted him himself.   He could have traded to get in position to get a player like Paul George etc..

Trades don't work the way he is trying to do them I guess is what I' msaying.  He's inquiring on players that may or may not be available.  But it's just blatant and teams are obviously going to want more than what we want to give up.  Trades suck that way.

It's because he's panicking, imo.  When he traded for all of these picks he was probably banking on the fact that he could trade them for good/great players, as opposed to actually having to use them to draft his own team, but that's not what's happened, and now the heat is really on.  This is the best pick we've not only had in his tenure, but in almost 20 years, and he has to nail it.  No excuses.  I've never been a fan of his drafting, but in the eyes of many others, the argument has always been that he's never had a good enough pick to be blamed for missing out on contributors found elsewhere in the draft , so what happens if he whiffs on this one?  Good thing he signed that contract extension, lol . Watching him have to construct a contender through the draft has always been my worst nightmare, and unfortunately it's on the verge of coming true.  Ugh.

[hpantazo]

The Lakers raved about him, Phili is drooling over him, the Bulls and TWolves are also reported to have strong interest in him. Several other teams consider him easily the best PG in the draft with future all-star potential. The demand is legit. That's why Ainge will take Dunn and trade him later on if teams call his bluff.

Teams saying that they like a player is not the same as a player being in demand.  For a player to be in demand, he has to actually be in demand.  This is a two player draft.  After that, it's a bunch of fit/hope guys that some teams will like, some will hate, and some won't be able to care less about.  Also, to point to your own words:

Something that we have to keep in mind in the next two days is, everything we are hearing now is old news and/or false , or were trade talks that were old and died already. Every GM has said this about draft rumors and trade deadline rumors. The stuff that shows up in the media is the stuff that is already dead or inaccurate. The real potential deals haven't been reported yet. Like the Pierce/KG-Nets deal, or the Jeff Green/Perk deal, or the Delonte West and Jeff Green for Ray Allen deal, etc.

This 'two player draft' thing is draft analyst garbage talk, especially considering Simmons and Ingram are not Towns, Lebron, or Duncan like at all. Oden was also a guaranteed superstar too right? There will certainly be all-stars outside of the top 2, and there is a significant chance that one or both of the top 2 will be busts. GMs know this, it is how pretty much all drafts go.

Heck, Ainge almost gave away our stash of picks for Justice Winslow last year, which itself was crazy, AND MJ turned it down, for Kaminsky , which is even crazier! And you know what? Neither of those two players were ever rated as top tier in the draft 'experts' analysis. GMs laugh at those analyses, their actions show that clearly.

[ManUp]

I would absolutely trade #3 for Okafor.

If he was in this draft he'd be in the mix for the #1 spot.

[jpotter33]

I think it's hilarious. Literally every major trade the Celtics have made in Ainge's time has had little to no "official" reporting on, or rumors of, before they happen. Rondo to the Mavs, KG/Paul to Brooklyn, the Olynyk trade-up, the Ray Allen/KG trade.

Yet, everyone here reacts to these articles as if they're gospel. History tells us otherwise. Take it all with a grain of salt. We won't know what's really going on until Friday morning.

I think the Philly/Noel/Embiid stuff has too much smoke to not have real substance to it. You have to think that deal is on the table if Danny wants it.

[alldaboston]

A little off topic. I was out of the country when the Pierce deal went down, and so the only way I found out about it was when I logged onto NBA.com and ESPN and the likes, when I had a little free time a few days after the draft had happened. My question is, when did we start hearing reports about the rumored deal? Was it on draft night, or was it maybe the day before, or when?

[Ilikesports17]

Ive been watching a ton of Jahlil and on this board his athleticism and frame is really underrated. Okafor has terrific length, quickness, and good explosiveness. Honestly his stroke is very nice too. After watching as much Philly as I could stomach, Im even more bought into Okafor. I think with good coaching those weaknesses will melt away.

[Beat LA]

Ive been watching a ton of Jahlil and on this board his athleticism and frame is really underrated. Okafor has terrific length, quickness, and good explosiveness. Honestly his stroke is very nice too. After watching as much Philly as I could stomach, Im even more bought into Okafor. I think with good coaching those weaknesses will melt away.

Lol, TP for your efforts .

[sawick48]

A little off topic. I was out of the country when the Pierce deal went down, and so the only way I found out about it was when I logged onto NBA.com and ESPN and the likes, when I had a little free time a few days after the draft had happened. My question is, when did we start hearing reports about the rumored deal? Was it on draft night, or was it maybe the day before, or when?

The entire week leading up to the draft was drama with Doc and KG heading to the Clippers for picks and DeAndre.  It wasn't really until the day before the draft that there were murmurs about a potential deal with the Nets for both guys. 

[CelticsBR]

I am surprised by the lack of talk about Cousins. Don't we really have the assets to convince the Kings to trade him? I consider him to be one step above Kevin Love and in the same level of 2 way impact of Butler. However, it seems to be easier substitute a guard in this league than a Center.

[hpantazo]

A little off topic. I was out of the country when the Pierce deal went down, and so the only way I found out about it was when I logged onto NBA.com and ESPN and the likes, when I had a little free time a few days after the draft had happened. My question is, when did we start hearing reports about the rumored deal? Was it on draft night, or was it maybe the day before, or when?

The entire week leading up to the draft was drama with Doc and KG heading to the Clippers for picks and DeAndre.  It wasn't really until the day before the draft that there were murmurs about a potential deal with the Nets for both guys.

Yep , the tumors leading up to the draft were KG and Doc for DeAndre and Bledsoe I believe, and the Nets deal showed up out of nowhere late in the afternoon on draft day I think.

[jpotter33]

I am surprised by the lack of talk about Cousins. Don't we really have the assets to convince the Kings to trade him? I consider him to be one step above Kevin Love and in the same level of 2 way impact of Butler. However, it seems to be easier substitute a guard in this league than a Center.

I think Joerger going there screwed us. Now they're convinced once again that a coaching change will set them straight, when it's actually Divac and Vivek that are the real problems with the organization. I think Dunn would be a good fit in Sacramento, though.

[sawick48]

I am surprised by the lack of talk about Cousins. Don't we really have the assets to convince the Kings to trade him? I consider him to be one step above Kevin Love and in the same level of 2 way impact of Butler. However, it seems to be easier substitute a guard in this league than a Center.

Is this a serious point?  We didn't have the assets for Justice Winslow and now we clearly have enough for Boogie?  Cmon...

Can we just accept what the facts are: that nobody wants our "treasure chest of assets."  They just don't have value.  At least not enough to pry an established superstar.  Plain and simple.  This isn't 2008 anymore.  Danny's going to have to get creative.

[jpotter33]

I am surprised by the lack of talk about Cousins. Don't we really have the assets to convince the Kings to trade him? I consider him to be one step above Kevin Love and in the same level of 2 way impact of Butler. However, it seems to be easier substitute a guard in this league than a Center.

Is this a serious point?  We didn't have the assets for Justice Winslow and now we clearly have enough for Boogie?  Cmon...

Can we just accept what the facts are: that nobody wants our "treasure chest of assets."  They just don't have value.  At least not enough to pry an established superstar.  Plain and simple.  This isn't 2008 anymore.  Danny's going to have to get creative.

Comparing the #3 pick this year to the poo-poo platter of mid-round firsts that we offered for Winslow last year is fallacious and illogical.