No One (Except Philly) Wants to Trade With Danny

[hpantazo]

Still not sure why Noel is even being mentioned in a trade for the #3. I realize he is a very good defensive center, but there seem to be other options out there that would be significantly 'cheaper' (in terms of what we need to give up) than Noel. The fact that he is going to make a LOT of money next year makes me much more apt to sign Biyombo to big money than trade the #3 for him.

I am with JPotter on the trade down options, too. WCS and #8 or Gallinari and #7 are much much better options even if we are adding additional assets.

After watching more of Okafor, he looks far far superior to Noel in terms of potential. I will be pretty bummed if after all of this we trade for one year of freakin' Nerlens Noel.

The one year part is the deal breaker for me. Its tough trading a #3 pick for a guy with 1 year left on his deal who will be getting a huge pay raise afterwards.

[Dino Pitino]

This is awesome. Noel should be near the top of the list of targets, anyway. Trade for him, and extend him. We should be able to get extra value, too. I'll be kind of queasy if we wind up with Okafor. If we get Noel, I might even be pretty upbeat about a subsequent Love trade, to make it an Thomas-Smart-Crowder-Love-Noel starting lineup like I think I saw someone post earlier elsewhere here. Then add a superstar PG or SG or SF and bring either Isaiah or Smart or Jae off the bench, and it'd be a potential title team.

[Scintan]

Last year was last year. Teams have different needs now, the Celtics gotta be ready.

We didn't have the #3 pick in the draft last year though. Future picks are harder to gauge, but after landing the #3, it has clearly defined value, AND it raises the value of the rest of the Nets picks. Bradley also made all defensive 1st team and his contract looks great coming into this offseason. We are in a great position.

It's a pretty cut and dry line, and it's there almost every year.  You're either high enough up to draw heavy attention, or you're not.

This year is a two player draft.  Boston sits at #3. 

[hpantazo]

Last year was last year. Teams have different needs now, the Celtics gotta be ready.

We didn't have the #3 pick in the draft last year though. Future picks are harder to gauge, but after landing the #3, it has clearly defined value, AND it raises the value of the rest of the Nets picks. Bradley also made all defensive 1st team and his contract looks great coming into this offseason. We are in a great position.

It's a pretty cut and dry line, and it's there almost every year.  You're either high enough up to draw heavy attention, or you're not.

This year is a two player draft.  Boston sits at #3.

The demand for Dunn says otherwise.

[GratefulCs]

Okafor sucks.

Whatever, at this point I'm starting to not care.  We are what we are and always will be.  A decent team that plays really hard and exits early in the playoffs until we decide to blow it up and try again.

Overpay for a star if you can (which we can't) and if not, draft Dunn and see if Philly will deal Embiid for him (they won't.  but again, at this point, who cares).  After which we sit Dunn for 5 years to punish him for not being better for us to get someone of worth for him.

always will be?

Dang

[sawick48]

what about #3 and Sullinger to Utah for Exum and Lyles?  They get their pg in Dunn to add to their core.  We get 2 lottery picks that best case work out to their potentials, or worst case totally flop and make us worse off in the short term anyway. 

I'm aware the risk with Exum coming off injury and all but at this point...Christ why not try and get creative?

[walker834]

I don't understand why DA always has to be so desparate to move it.  He needs to not be so blatant with some of this stuff imo.   I like Danny Ainge and all and trust he can evaluate and make the right moves in the end but it's becoming predictable where other GM's have him figuerd out.  We need to be more loyal to our own team and players in ways where he is hurting their value to us and around the league.

There are good players this draft. DA is basically saying if i can do better i'll do it though. For Parker or Butler or whoever. Obviously but jaylen brown is a good player. So is Bender.

he needs to anticipate better and draft better himself and get himself in position to get guys like Butler though if he really wants them. He could have drafted him himself.   He could have traded to get in position to get a player like Paul George etc.. 

Trades don't work the way he is trying to do them I guess is what I' msaying.  He's inquiring on players that may or may not be available.  But it's just blatant and teams are obviously going to want more than what we want to give up.  Trades suck that way.

[Scintan]

Last year was last year. Teams have different needs now, the Celtics gotta be ready.

We didn't have the #3 pick in the draft last year though. Future picks are harder to gauge, but after landing the #3, it has clearly defined value, AND it raises the value of the rest of the Nets picks. Bradley also made all defensive 1st team and his contract looks great coming into this offseason. We are in a great position.

It's a pretty cut and dry line, and it's there almost every year.  You're either high enough up to draw heavy attention, or you're not.

This year is a two player draft.  Boston sits at #3.

The demand for Dunn says otherwise.

What demand? 

[sawick48]

what about #3 and Sullinger to Utah for Exum and Lyles?  They get their pg in Dunn to add to their core.  We get 2 lottery picks that best case work out to their potentials, or worst case totally flop and make us worse off in the short term anyway. 

I'm aware the risk with Exum coming off injury and all but at this point...Christ why not try and get creative?

and then we do what we can with our remaining picks to position ourselves for Thon Maker

[hpantazo]

Last year was last year. Teams have different needs now, the Celtics gotta be ready.

We didn't have the #3 pick in the draft last year though. Future picks are harder to gauge, but after landing the #3, it has clearly defined value, AND it raises the value of the rest of the Nets picks. Bradley also made all defensive 1st team and his contract looks great coming into this offseason. We are in a great position.

It's a pretty cut and dry line, and it's there almost every year.  You're either high enough up to draw heavy attention, or you're not.

This year is a two player draft.  Boston sits at #3.

The demand for Dunn says otherwise.

What demand?

The Lakers raved about him, Phili is drooling over him, the Bulls and TWolves are also reported to have strong interest in him. Several other teams consider him easily the best PG in the draft with future all-star potential. The demand is legit. That's why Ainge will take Dunn and trade him later on if teams call his bluff.

[The Rondo Show]

Preference:

1. Trade for Okafor 2. Draft Dunn 3. Draft Brown

[BDeCosta26]

I'd much rather have Okafor then Noel.

Nerlens has almost zero Basketball skills...Okafor is lethal in the paint on offense at least....We can find another defender, but Okafor is 20 and might be the best low-post player in the league.

Al Jefferson was the best post player in the league for years. Is that the kind of guy you want at #3, a younger version of Big Al who doesn't rebound as well?

[hpantazo]

Something that we have to keep in mind in the next two days is, everything we are hearing now is old news and/or false , or were trade talks that were old and died already. Every GM has said this about draft rumors and trade deadline rumors. The stuff that shows up in the media is the stuff that is already dead or inaccurate. The real potential deals haven't been reported yet. Like the Pierce/KG-Nets deal, or the Jeff Green/Perk deal, or the Delonte West and Jeff Green for Ray Allen deal, etc.

[BDeCosta26]

I think it's hilarious. Literally every major trade the Celtics have made in Ainge's time has had little to no "official" reporting on, or rumors of, before they happen. Rondo to the Mavs, KG/Paul to Brooklyn, the Olynyk trade-up, the Ray Allen/KG trade.

Yet, everyone here reacts to these articles as if they're gospel. History tells us otherwise. Take it all with a grain of salt. We won't know what's really going on until Friday morning.

[sawick48]

I'd much rather have Okafor then Noel.

Nerlens has almost zero Basketball skills...Okafor is lethal in the paint on offense at least....We can find another defender, but Okafor is 20 and might be the best low-post player in the league.

Al Jefferson was the best post player in the league for years. Is that the kind of guy you want at #3, a younger version of Big Al who doesn't rebound as well?

Don't forget "or play defense nearly as well" which is really saying something when compared to AlJ