Rumor: Celtics, among others, in contact with Sixers about Noel/Okafor

[Smokeeye123]

I'm just asking because I'm not sure myself whether it's better to use #3 on Okafor/Noel or overpay with real dollars and cap space for one of Biyombo/Whiteside and overpay with draft assets for Middleton? This would give us a really nice small ball starting lineup which is the way the modern NBA seems to be trending. Of course, there is no guarantee that we can sign either center.

Biyombo/Whiteside
Crowder
Middleton
Bradley
Thomas

Some dumb GM is going to sign Whiteside to a max and be a 9th seed for the next 4 years. Whiteside is a good Center but he's not a transformative player.

[CoachBo]

If I'm getting scoring frontline help, I have zero issue taking Noel for the #3. None whatsoever.

If Noel is all I'm getting, and there are no other deals, different story.

[jpotter33]

Yeah, same here, though you should try hard to get Covington, too, who shouldn't be a deal breaker for them. He'd be a great, cheap backup 3 for us.

[CoachBo]

Yeah, same here, though you should try hard to get Covington, too, who shouldn't be a deal breaker for them. He'd be a great, cheap backup 3 for us.

Agreed. Would not mind seeing him in the deal.

[Bobshot]

Two deals on twitter right now @StatisticsNBA with sources:

Okafor for #3

Middleton and Monroe for #3 and another player.

Who's the other player?

I like Philly deal better. That's over $30 million in salary for Monroe/Middleton. Too much.
Get Middleton alone for less. Use the #3 for Okafor or Noel.

[BitterJim]

I'm just asking because I'm not sure myself whether it's better to use #3 on Okafor/Noel or overpay with real dollars and cap space for one of Biyombo/Whiteside and overpay with draft assets for Middleton? This would give us a really nice small ball starting lineup which is the way the modern NBA seems to be trending. Of course, there is no guarantee that we can sign either center.

Biyombo/Whiteside
Crowder
Middleton
Bradley
Thomas

Some dumb GM is going to sign Whiteside to a max and be a 9th seed for the next 4 years. Whiteside is a good Center but he's not a transformative player.

I think Whiteside is defiantly a transformative player

As in, once he gets a max contract he'll transform into a much lazier and more disruptive player

[budMovin]

Two deals on twitter right now @StatisticsNBA with sources:

Okafor for #3

Middleton and Monroe for #3 and another player.

Who's the other player?

The other player is anyone they want except Isiah Thomas. Monroe and Middleton would be a haul.

[Phantom255x]

Two deals on twitter right now @StatisticsNBA with sources:

Okafor for #3

Middleton and Monroe for #3 and another player.

Who's the other player?

The other player is anyone they want except Isiah Thomas. Monroe and Middleton would be a haul.

Amir Johnson and someone else I presume. They need to match or at least balance out the salaries a bit right?

[byennie]

Good lord, no thanks on Monroe + Middleton. We're going to spend $32M of our cap room on two guys the Bucks are trying to unload, for 1 year of Monroe, and give away our top-3 pick in the process? That's just awful. And we have to send back player(s)?

[budMovin]

Two deals on twitter right now @StatisticsNBA with sources:

Okafor for #3

Middleton and Monroe for #3 and another player.

Who's the other player?

The other player is anyone they want except Isiah Thomas. Monroe and Middleton would be a haul.

Amir Johnson and someone else I presume. They need to match or at least balance out the salaries a bit right?

I can never make any sense of the salary matching and the weird cap rules of the NBA. From what little I understand, the salaries only have to match if the teams are close to/over the cap. When we had the big 3 are were up against the cap each year, salary matching was a must.

Someone who knows more than me is welcome to clear that up.

[jpotter33]

Good lord, no thanks on Monroe + Middleton. We're going to spend $32M of our cap room on two guys the Bucks are trying to unload, for 1 year of Monroe, and give away our top-3 pick in the process? That's just awful. And we have to send back player(s)?

Yeah, that's a lot of cap space to spend on them. Would we just play small then around Monroe? IT, Bradley, Middleton, Crowder, and Monroe! We'd also have to send out quite a bit in salary, too.

Just checked salary. We'd have to send MORE THAN Amir, JJ, and AB to get it done. They're about 300,000 short. No thanks. I prefer Noel and Love/KO 

[Phantom255x]

Good lord, no thanks on Monroe + Middleton. We're going to spend $32M of our cap room on two guys the Bucks are trying to unload, for 1 year of Monroe, and give away our top-3 pick in the process? That's just awful. And we have to send back player(s)?

Yeah, that's a lot of cap space to spend on them. Would we just play small then around Monroe? IT, Bradley, Middleton, Crowder, and Monroe! We'd also have to send out quite a bit in salary, too.

Just checked salary. We'd have to send MORE THAN Amir, JJ, and AB to get it done. They're about 300,000 short. No thanks. I prefer Noel and Love/KO 

Would a Middleton+Henson deal work?

[steve]

If I'm getting scoring frontline help, I have zero issue taking Noel for the #3. None whatsoever.

If Noel is all I'm getting, and there are no other deals, different story.

Noel is probably the best rim protector in the game. I think Phily will sweeten the deal because they want dunn so bad. Maybe a 1st next year?

[Irish Stew]

Monroe provides no interior defense so finding another big to pair with him is a real problem because he is also a traditional low post player. If you want both interior defense and proper floor spacing, you have to find a rim protector with outside shooting range. These guys don't grow on trees. Remember that Monroe/Drummond was a total fail. The alternative is to start Monroe with Crowder, Middleton, Bradley, and Thomas and count on superior perimeter defense and no interior defense.

[Bobshot]

Good lord, no thanks on Monroe + Middleton. We're going to spend $32M of our cap room on two guys the Bucks are trying to unload, for 1 year of Monroe, and give away our top-3 pick in the process? That's just awful. And we have to send back player(s)?

I agree. I looked up the salaries and amended my post. Prefer Noel or Okafor for the #3.
Too much salary for both. Get Middleton another way, maybe. Not with #3.