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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2016, 01:58:08 PM »

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I was a fan of getting Monroe but given that Detroit got a lot better without him and the Bucks got a lot worse, I'm very leery of the guy now.

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Detroit got better because it made no sense to play two centers at the same time.

Milwaukee got worse because they only had one reliable three point shooter in their original starting lineup.

As usual, people fail to look at context, they only see that a big man doesn't fit what they think should be the prototype for that position.

Monroe hasn't really improved his defense since he was in the Bucks.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2016, 01:59:57 PM »

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Yea I saw this earlier, sign me up! He would be a HUGE upgrade over fat sully, he's equal on defense, rebounding, better scorer and passer. I was disappointed we didn't go after him last year.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2016, 02:00:52 PM »

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I was a fan of getting Monroe but given that Detroit got a lot better without him and the Bucks got a lot worse, I'm very leery of the guy now.

Mike

Detroit got better because it made no sense to play two centers at the same time.

Milwaukee got worse because they only had one reliable three point shooter in their original starting lineup.

As usual, people fail to look at context, they only see that a big man doesn't fit what they think should be the prototype for that position.

Monroe hasn't really improved his defense since he was in the Bucks.

Perhaps, but it's hard to support the assertion that they were worse defensively with him than without him.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2016, 02:01:48 PM »

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I was a fan of getting Monroe but given that Detroit got a lot better without him and the Bucks got a lot worse, I'm very leery of the guy now.

Mike

Detroit got better because it made no sense to play two centers at the same time.

Milwaukee got worse because they only had one reliable three point shooter in their original starting lineup.

As usual, people fail to look at context, they only see that a big man doesn't fit what they think should be the prototype for that position.

Monroe hasn't really improved his defense since he was in the Bucks.

Perhaps, but it's hard to support the assertion that they were worse defensively with him than without him.

They did bench for a couple of games.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2016, 02:05:17 PM »

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Bradley + Olynyk + #16 for Monroe + #10

That's the sort of deal I'd go for.

Monroe isn't an ideal starting center, but I think he's undervalued at this point and could be a quality piece.  Certainly an upgrade on Sullinger as a rebounder and scorer.

I doubt they'd consider moving Parker.

That solves zero problems for the C's and only opens up a hole on defense. What's so good about Greg Monroe? He's been a loser on every team he's ever played on and that teams defense gets much worse with him on it.

Actually, Monroe had a positive DRPM for the Bucks and the Pistons these past two years.

Monroe is more productive than any of the bigs the Celtics currently have.

Right now, the Celts aren't winning anything of note with this group so personnel moves have to be viewed in terms of upgrading assets rather than how a player necessarily "fits" in the vision of the team as it's constructed at the moment.

How are you upgrading an asset when you giving away another key one in Bradley? If trades are made it needs to be for young high ceiling players or in bigger deals involving better players. That trade is essentially shuffling chairs around.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2016, 02:13:13 PM »

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I'd absolutely acquire Monroe as he would be a huge upgrade over any big man on the roster.  That said, assuming the price was fairly similar, I'd rather acquire Okafor, who while not as good currently has more upside growth potential.

TP. if we want a post scorer i'd rather pay more and shoot for the moon with the youngster than go with a guy in monroe who is good but will almost certainly never be great. we're still looking for our championship core - i don't monroe as being part of that, and apparently neither does milwakee.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2016, 02:19:53 PM »

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If we can get him for cheap I say yes yes yes. Monroe is better than any player in this draft besides Simmons. He's better than Okafor at both rebounding and defending and if we can get him for cheap why not. It just gets us one step closer to getting a team that Durant would want to come to. Or to even attract Horford because Al doesn't want to play center and would actually fit very well with Monroe.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2016, 02:20:58 PM »

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I could see Ainge acquiring him for his salary slot....sort of like how he gambled on David Lee's big salary for a future trade match up...didn't work with Lee, but same idea.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2016, 02:21:36 PM »

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Wondering if MIL would consider Monroe and #10 for Amir, Young, Hunter, #16 and #23.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2016, 02:25:12 PM »

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All I remember about him is that we had no one who could stop him last season. He made us look small.  Brad probably mentioned this to Danny as well.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2016, 02:26:29 PM »

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All I remember about him is that we had no one who could stop him last season. He made us look small.  Brad probably mentioned this to Danny as well.

This has been true for the past few years...he must be an idiot or something, because he should be a bigger star in this league than he is.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2016, 02:30:30 PM »

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Not a big fan of Monroe, a lot would depend on the price.

Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2016, 02:30:59 PM »

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Not a big fan of Monroe, a lot would depend on the price.

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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2016, 02:34:16 PM »

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Wondering if MIL would consider Monroe and #10 for Amir, Young, Hunter, #16 and #23.

They'd probably insist on Rozier instead of one of Young or Hunter.
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Re: Report: Bucks shopping Monroe "Hard"
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2016, 02:34:34 PM »

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Not a big fan of Monroe, a lot would depend on the price.

Swap with Amir?
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