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Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2016, 03:08:09 AM »

Offline EvilEmpire

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I really don't think any of the draft pundits have a clue what DA is going to do. I do know that drafting 3 non draft and stash 1st rounders seems incredibly unlikely. Ultimately I would guess Brown or Bender are the options at #3 with a trade down very likely if the pick can't be used on a Vet. I think the Kings will make a push to move up for Dunn and the Nuggets for Bender: the nuggets have the most to offer with their vets like Faried but they also have picks. I am intrigued by the possibility of trading #3 and 23 for #7, #15, and #19 with the logic being to package the 3 picks in the teens 15,16 and 19 to move back into the lottery. Let's say that trade bring the Cs the 9-11 pick, they could potentially land Brown or Hield along with Poeltl or Ellenson. While not sure things adding two players at that level is a major talent grab. With the depth of rotational talent available at 31 and 35 this could turn a weaker draft class into a very valuable talent haul for the Cs.

That sounds great and logic says something like that should work but you have to have a dance partner. Hell the Hornets wouldn't take 6 picks to drop back 7 picks (or something like that)

I would like to move the 3 for Okafor and the #24 or26.

Then take:
16 Davis , Korkmaz,  Luwawu (in that order)
23 Valentine or Zizic
24 either of the 23 or Diallo

Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2016, 03:36:33 AM »

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The problem for all these pundits is that this draft starts at 3 with the biggest joker in the GM pack. Danny has the reputation of going whatever way he wants in the draft (with the full support of ownership), of being a gambler, and being a walking/talking smokescreen. No one knows what Danny's going to do in the draft and you can't trust anything he says.

Maybe most important for DX slotting Dunn at 3 is that he's the guy in most demand after Simmons and Ingram. Excluding the Cs, 5 of the first 7 teams drafting at the top round like Dunn a lot with PHX and DEN already having PGs. CHI is another team with the goods to trade up likes him too while the NYK might.

Why would Danny pick Dunn at 3 for himself? BPA (production + athleticism) and he also plays very strong defense, which is very important in DA's and BCS's world. He could be paired with any guard on our roster because he tall enough and quick enough to defend either position.

This was new info too: The Celtics are unlikely to be scared off by not receiving his medical info from his agents or the benefit of a workout, as their own team doctor conducted Dunn's shoulder surgery a few years ago, and they may know him better than anyone in this draft having played right up the road in Providence.

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Otherwise, this draft seems to hint that Bender's falling. If so DEN makes a lot of sense. Hield seems like a slightly better fit in MIN than Murray and as in every mock draft, whichever player is left from the top 8 never gets past SAC. I cannot say I am thrilled about Valentine at 23 given there are some good stash candidates available and we are going to have to draft them.

DX mock updated 6/16 - C's take Dunn
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2016, 12:23:22 PM »

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Saw this change last night and haven't seen a post about it yet. Chriss dropped to #4 and Dunn is apparently on our radar at #3.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/

I'd be happy with either Dunn or Bender at 4. I was not high on Brown but on Simmons podcast Jimmy Butler had nothing but good things to say about him.

Less than 1 week!

Re: DX mock updated 6/16 - C's take Dunn
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2016, 12:33:01 PM »

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Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2016, 12:50:03 PM »

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Worth mentioning that this mock has us taking Brice Johnson at #31 and Thon Maker at #35.


This could be a really great draft for us!

Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2016, 01:37:37 PM »

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Sounds about right. Dunn's going 3rd and we are moving him for Butler.

Not unless Chicago's price comes WAY down.
what is their current asking price? i have no idea myself.
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Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2016, 01:40:02 PM »

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If we trade the pick -- saying we would take Dunn only makes sense if that's whom the team we are trading with wants.

I doubt Danny is going to take him on the 'hope' that he has more trade value.  If the intention is to trade the player, whomever he picks will have been chosen already by the other team.

If we do trade the pick, I do like Davis at #16, but I'm doubtful he will really slip to #16.

And while I like Valentine, I don't know how you take him, injuries and all, if Zizic is still on the board. 

Givony's mocks are starting to get a little crazy.

Givony is far from perfect.  He had WCS at 14 last year, and us taking the undrafted Cliff Alexander in the first round, and the similarly undrafted Jonathan Holmes at 33 and Robert Upshaw at 45.  He did all right overall, but completely missed on our picks.
hard to believe, but even here at cb we dont bat 1.000.  ;)

small point, even mentioning that someone got the #45 pick in the draft "wrong" seems to be slicing things a bit thinly.
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Re: DX Mock 6/16/16
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2016, 01:46:00 PM »

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If we trade the pick -- saying we would take Dunn only makes sense if that's whom the team we are trading with wants.

I doubt Danny is going to take him on the 'hope' that he has more trade value.  If the intention is to trade the player, whomever he picks will have been chosen already by the other team.

If we do trade the pick, I do like Davis at #16, but I'm doubtful he will really slip to #16.

And while I like Valentine, I don't know how you take him, injuries and all, if Zizic is still on the board. 

Givony's mocks are starting to get a little crazy.

Givony is far from perfect.  He had WCS at 14 last year, and us taking the undrafted Cliff Alexander in the first round, and the similarly undrafted Jonathan Holmes at 33 and Robert Upshaw at 45.  He did all right overall, but completely missed on our picks.
hard to believe, but even here at cb we dont bat 1.000.  ;)

small point, even mentioning that someone got the #45 pick in the draft "wrong" seems to be slicing things a bit thinly.

It was just that it was the third of three consecutive undrafted players he mocked to us, none of whom even made a roster out of training camp, that made me include it.