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Rate Murray athletically based on this Video
« on: June 11, 2016, 03:04:39 AM »

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 On a scale of 1 to 10 in .1 increments.

 Say Jordan was a 9.9 as an athlete
 Russell Westbrook is a 9.8
 
 What would you rate Murray based on these dunks. I know more than dunks is required but it gives you an idea of his athleticism.

 For lazy people the Dunk at 1:05 is the second hardest. And the 1:10 dunk is his best.

https://youtu.be/vEPiuyfzc4A

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Eh, it's hard to say based solely on that video.

I'd say he's about a notch lower than Smart on leaping ability/explosiveness off the jump, and Smart isn't a top-flight athlete in that regard by any means, though he certainly looks pretty decent in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyD3JOwnug
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about average for a guy his size and age(for an nba athlete)
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 04:05:38 AM »

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He doesnt get up high but he does cover ground. Some people say he isn't a good athlete because he doesnt explode enough for highlights or use his speed on defense enough. We collectively need to think of this like looking at Devin Booker. Booker was considered a better than expected athlete after his combine and was also called the best shooter of his draft. Murray best Devin Bookers numbers in stats and athletically and he isn't getting the same respect as an athlete and shooter. Booker avg 13.8/2.5/2.6 on 42% shooting (34% from three) this year in the NBA. Booker also had a few 30+ point games as a rookie to boot. If Murray is a better athlete, equal shooter, better ball handler and better rebounder (1 inch shorter in height though) what kind of production just coming in can he put up? Does 16/4/3 on 44% shooting (34% from three) sound reasonable? That is rookie of the year consideration levels in a normal year. Point is Booker looks like he belongs and can be an impact scorer and Murray is on the same curve.  If C's get a better Devin Booker at 3 should any one be disappointed?
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was that in slow-mo? that was boring. 
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Does being able to dunk like that even matter if you don't have the quickness and ball handling ability to get to the hoop in the first place?

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 04:16:00 AM »

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Probably around Curry's level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8mxurPLe3E

Not too explosive but not too unathletic either. Probably around average for an NBA player. You want to see unathletic player? See Olynyk.

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 04:32:00 AM »

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He's not a bad athlete. I'd say he's a average to pretty good athlete. So skilled that it doesn't matter.  Probably the same athletic level as Smart although Smart is significantly heavier and stronger.

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Eh, it's hard to say based solely on that video.

I'd say he's about a notch lower than Smart on leaping ability/explosiveness off the jump, and Smart isn't a top-flight athlete in that regard by any means, though he certainly looks pretty decent in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuyD3JOwnug

Smart had pretty good combine numbers athletically, and the way he goes for those putback dunks Id say Smart is an above average athlete.

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about average for a guy his size and age(for an nba athlete)

He's a below average athlete for the NBA. He just has an incredibly good shot and balance on his shooting. My worry is that even in the NBA that won't be enough to get his shot off consistently. He seems like a gym rat though so he'll do everything he can to become slightly more explosive.

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You know who wasnt a good athlete? Paul Pierce.  ;)

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Or Larry Bird.

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2016, 08:55:47 AM »

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How many of you can dunk or could dunk?

The bounce dunks are some of the easiest ones to do if you have timing.  They look great two but I always thought they were on the easier ones to pull off.   The real thing is do you have timing.

I would say he is average to slightly below average in terms of jumping.


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You know who wasnt a good athlete? Paul Pierce.

Pierce had a max vertical of 38".    Don't confuse not jumping high all the time for not having the ability to jump.  This is not a standing vertical.

https://slingersnation.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/a-comparison-with-nba-players-just-how-high-can-the-flyboy-jump/

Google it, can we end the myth of him being a poor NBA athlete.   That is a full ten inches above the NBA average.  He was not the best of his class but hardly the worst.   Is he an athlete next to Vince Carter? Nope.  Sully?  Yes.

Here are the averages by position, the standing vertical for the league is 28" according to ESPN

No step
PG: 29.4
SG: 29.7
SF: 29.7
PF: 28.5
C: 26.8

Max vert:

PG: 34.9
SG: 35
SF: 34.5
PF: 32.8
C: 30.7

I think laypeople who were never tested as a part of a team do not always understand these things.   I wonder how many here have had their vertical tested by a team trainer?

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 09:10:19 AM »

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3.5/10 at the NBA level.

Coming into the NBA, a significant majority of good NBA shooting guards are more athletic than him. Taking into account the fact that some of his competition is past their athletic prime, he'll be at a slight athletic disadvantage on most nights, but it isn't an insurmountable disadvantage.

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Something like a 2 or 3 based on his height.  I bet 7 or 8 out of 10 guys who are his height in the NBA are a little more explosive athletically.

That doesn't mean he can't be a great player though.  His timing and balance are probably well above average.  Like others have said, Bird, Curry, and I'll add Nash weren't great athletes in terms of explosion but made up for it in other ways.  Mark Jackson had a great career considering he was athletically a stiff.  Billups was below average in explosiveness.   I think Murray will be a very good player.