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Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:22:11 AM »

Offline spikelovetheCelts

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There is a great deal of buzz that Kevin Love will not be a Cav next year including this from Bob Ryan http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/bob-ryan-i-predict-kevin-love-will-be-different-uniform-next-season?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo I for one do not want him unless we get a steal. What do you guys think his value is and should we pursue him in the new small ball NBA where he looks lost.
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Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 09:25:41 AM »

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Swap KO + any of Young/Hunter + #16 & 23 for Kevin Love.

Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 09:25:50 AM »

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There is a great deal of buzz that Kevin Love will not be a Cav next year including this from Bob Ryan http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/bob-ryan-i-predict-kevin-love-will-be-different-uniform-next-season?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo I for one do not want him unless we get a steal. What do you guys think his value is and should we pursue him in the new small ball NBA where he looks lost.

Love will still be a sought after commodity, especially with every team having spending money.
In trade I think he costs us nothing more then Bradley and the #3 pick. It would have to be a 3 team deal as the Cavs aren't looking for draft picks.
Something like Cavs get Bradley/Carmelo, Knicks get the #3, we get Love.

Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
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AB and #3 is too much...

The Cavs need to re-work their bench. They absolutely should be after AB so I would include him, KO, and Amir, along with a later pick (not #3 or #16). I realize we are trading depth, but Amir (if we pick up his option) and KO are FAs after next season and will need a substantial raise. It still leaves us with IT, Crowder, Smart, Love, and #3. We would still have options with that pick (use or trade) and would give us the option to overpay somebody like Biyombo since we would have our floor-stretching, good passing/rebounding, big.

It would also allow us to consider keeping Turner, Sully, JJ if we don't try for double-max contracts since we would be doing a quantity for quality trade.

Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 09:42:42 AM »

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Teams will still offer the farm for Kevin Love.
I can see team offer young players (like Milwaukee try to package Jabari/Monroe for Love, for example).  So it'd be really hard to lowball the Cavs.

This isnt to say we should offer our farm for Love either. Cleveland would be desperate for perimeter defenders. My offer would be for Jae Crowder or Avery Bradley straight up. Not both. If i feel nice, you can have some young shooting with RJ or James Young.
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Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 09:45:31 AM »

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AB and #3 is too much...

The Cavs need to re-work their bench. They absolutely should be after AB so I would include him, KO, and Amir, along with a later pick (not #3 or #16). I realize we are trading depth, but Amir (if we pick up his option) and KO are FAs after next season and will need a substantial raise. It still leaves us with IT, Crowder, Smart, Love, and #3. We would still have options with that pick (use or trade) and would give us the option to overpay somebody like Biyombo since we would have our floor-stretching, good passing/rebounding, big.

It would also allow us to consider keeping Turner, Sully, JJ if we don't try for double-max contracts since we would be doing a quantity for quality trade.

It might be too much but in reality if Ainge wanted him it's what he would cost. Other teams will present similar if not better offers.
In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers offered a package with the #2 for Love. I have to imagine they want a hometown boy like him on their roster.

Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 09:46:04 AM »

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Swap KO + any of Young/Hunter + #16 & 23 for Kevin Love.
How about they just hand him over for nothing? Sounds way better.
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Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 09:49:16 AM »

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Love is still a great offensive rebounder and a good perimeter shooter. The popular idea that he's garbage in this board makes about as much sense as this board's infatuation with the Euromistake.

If Ainge wants him, make a quality offer. It's CERTAINLY a better use of the 3 than Dragan No D.
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Bradley, Amir, 23 and the Memphis pick would be my offer.

We need shooting and if we move on from Sully we will need rebounding. He fits two needs and we would be buying at his absolute lowest point. Our pick and roll with Thomas and Love would be elite.

For Cleveland, they add the best Curry defender in the league at a time when the championship goes through Curry. Amir can give them quality defensive minutes and they add a future pick for once LeBron is on his last leg.
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Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
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Love is still a great offensive rebounder and a good perimeter shooter. The popular idea that he's garbage in this board makes about as much sense as this board's infatuation with the Euromistake.

If Ainge wants him, make a quality offer. It's CERTAINLY a better use of the 3 than Dragan No D.
That popular idea is driving his price down to the point that I think it's possible we could add him without giving up 3.
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Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2016, 10:04:47 AM »

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AB and #3 is too much...

The Cavs need to re-work their bench. They absolutely should be after AB so I would include him, KO, and Amir, along with a later pick (not #3 or #16). I realize we are trading depth, but Amir (if we pick up his option) and KO are FAs after next season and will need a substantial raise. It still leaves us with IT, Crowder, Smart, Love, and #3. We would still have options with that pick (use or trade) and would give us the option to overpay somebody like Biyombo since we would have our floor-stretching, good passing/rebounding, big.

It would also allow us to consider keeping Turner, Sully, JJ if we don't try for double-max contracts since we would be doing a quantity for quality trade.

It might be too much but in reality if Ainge wanted him it's what he would cost. Other teams will present similar if not better offers.
In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers offered a package with the #2 for Love. I have to imagine they want a hometown boy like him on their roster.

I don't know, Love was essentially a superstar and two years younger when he was traded to the Cavs; is he really still worth a Wiggins-level prospect (Ingram)? I could see Ainge dealing the #3 for him, but no more. It seems that the Cavs would be much better off with Avery, KO, Amir, and [lower] picks (to replace what they already have given away) than trying to add more 'stars'. Lebron does much better when he is in control of the game. If Love comes back next game and they lose, he is essentially a goner.

They have some pretty horrible players on their bench - Avery would come in and start and take Dellavedova's minutes. And I think KO and Amir could carve out minutes from Mozgov, Kaun, James Jones, and even Frye.

Re: Should we pursue Kevin Love now?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2016, 10:07:44 AM »

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Love is still a great offensive rebounder and a good perimeter shooter. The popular idea that he's garbage in this board makes about as much sense as this board's infatuation with the Euromistake.

If Ainge wants him, make a quality offer. It's CERTAINLY a better use of the 3 than Dragan No D.
Is he really still a great offensive rebounder? His Offensive rebounding numbers have been just OK for the last 3 years.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cavs-need-to-talk-about-kevin-081838796.html

Interesting Woj article about Love in Cleveland after last night. I wouldn't be surprised if he hardly plays in game four after last night's thrashing of the Warriors, even though I think that was just as much of a Warriors issue as it was a Cavs change.
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I still think we'll be an optimal trading partner, but it will probably be as the third team. I actually expect for there to be a heavy insistence for the Boston/Cleveland/New York trade talks to pick back up. As stupid as it would be, I think Lebron will try to replace Love with Melo, and we'll get Love and end up shipping off the number three pick to New York.
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I think you still go after him, personally I think he's just a bad fit in Cleveland. The thing is they don't want or need picks they need players. They are trying to win right now, so do they like any players on our team? Most likely need a third team to pull this off. In the current NBA the Queen can play the 4 so 1,2's and 3's could be of interest to them.