Who else still wants Kevin Love?

[CelticSooner]

If Cavs offer Love for AB and Crowder no picks just that. I take the deal. Wouldn't give up much more.


Edit add:OK maybe throw in JJ too. Cavs could also use JJ in that package for that style of play. And that isn't a big blow to add him to the deal.

C's would just be opening another hole in the team with that deal. A third team would have to be involved that wants the C's picks/younger players.

[MBunge]

If Cavs offer Love for AB and Crowder no picks just that. I take the deal. Wouldn't give up much more.

I don't think you make that deal unless Ainge has also got a deal worked out with Dwight or a trade with Memphis to swap #3, a future Brooklyn #1, Amir, KO and filler for Marc Gasol, and only if Durant's agent has expressed interest in joining that team.

Mike

[sdceltsfan]

My best offer for Love:

S&T Sullinger, Bradley, KO, and #16

They don't get Crowder AND Bradley. Two contract-friendly guys....nah. They can keep Love at that point.

I would throw in another 1st or 2nd rounder from this year (not #3).



Between Lebron and Kyrie's offensives aggressiveness, there really isn't room for a guy like Love to get the consistent amount of looks that he was used to in Minnesota. It belittles his game too much to be the #3 guy, which is what he becomes in the starting lineup.

Insert him on to the Celtics starting lineup though, and he becomes the #1 scoring option. The offense revolves around him. It depends on Love touching the ball, and being a facilitator. Right now in Cleveland, Lebron or Kyrie drive and dish to him, and EXPECT a shot if he's open, and that's their 2nd option when driving. I just don't think Love is used to this role, and maybe never be. He used to be one of the more exciting players to watch, and now it's kind of sad and boring.

Cleveland needs roster depth. They get about 70% of what Love can give them out of KO, plus one of, if not, the best defensive guard in the league, in Bradley. Sully gives them another rotational big with starter potential. #16 gives them a shot at a guy like Denzel Valentine, to score off the bench, which is what they desperately need.

After watching Cleveland get burned by trading #1 overall away for Love, I don't really see any of the top 5 pick teams lining up to offer a trade for Love. Maybe Minnesota, but Cleveland obviously doesn't make that deal, because it just admits obvious defeat.

[wiley]

If Cavs offer Love for AB and Crowder no picks just that. I take the deal. Wouldn't give up much more.


Edit add:OK maybe throw in JJ too. Cavs could also use JJ in that package for that style of play. And that isn't a big blow to add him to the deal.

C's would just be opening another hole in the team with that deal. A third team would have to be involved that wants the C's picks/younger players.

Not only that, but then the Cavs would crush the C's head to head...

[Moranis]

My best offer for Love:

S&T Sullinger, Bradley, KO, and #16

They don't get Crowder AND Bradley. Two contract-friendly guys....nah. They can keep Love at that point.

I would throw in another 1st or 2nd rounder from this year (not #3).



Between Lebron and Kyrie's offensives aggressiveness, there really isn't room for a guy like Love to get the consistent amount of looks that he was used to in Minnesota. It belittles his game too much to be the #3 guy, which is what he becomes in the starting lineup.

Insert him on to the Celtics starting lineup though, and he becomes the #1 scoring option. The offense revolves around him. It depends on Love touching the ball, and being a facilitator. Right now in Cleveland, Lebron or Kyrie drive and dish to him, and EXPECT a shot if he's open, and that's their 2nd option when driving. I just don't think Love is used to this role, and maybe never be. He used to be one of the more exciting players to watch, and now it's kind of sad and boring.

Cleveland needs roster depth. They get about 70% of what Love can give them out of KO, plus one of, if not, the best defensive guard in the league, in Bradley. Sully gives them another rotational big with starter potential. #16 gives them a shot at a guy like Denzel Valentine, to score off the bench, which is what they desperately need.

After watching Cleveland get burned by trading #1 overall away for Love, I don't really see any of the top 5 pick teams lining up to offer a trade for Love. Maybe Minnesota, but Cleveland obviously doesn't make that deal, because it just admits obvious defeat.

Cleveland doesn't need roster depth at all, they just need a bit better roster construction.  I mean Mo Williams and Timofey Mozgov aren't even in the rotation for them.  The problem is basically Love/Irving/James just don't fit that well and 2 of the 3 are pretty bad defenders.  If they can turn at least one of Irving or Love into a more balanced two way player (even one not as good) that should do a great deal for that team. 

[celticsclay]

My best offer for Love:

S&T Sullinger, Bradley, KO, and #16

They don't get Crowder AND Bradley. Two contract-friendly guys....nah. They can keep Love at that point.

I would throw in another 1st or 2nd rounder from this year (not #3).



Between Lebron and Kyrie's offensives aggressiveness, there really isn't room for a guy like Love to get the consistent amount of looks that he was used to in Minnesota. It belittles his game too much to be the #3 guy, which is what he becomes in the starting lineup.

Insert him on to the Celtics starting lineup though, and he becomes the #1 scoring option. The offense revolves around him. It depends on Love touching the ball, and being a facilitator. Right now in Cleveland, Lebron or Kyrie drive and dish to him, and EXPECT a shot if he's open, and that's their 2nd option when driving. I just don't think Love is used to this role, and maybe never be. He used to be one of the more exciting players to watch, and now it's kind of sad and boring.

Cleveland needs roster depth. They get about 70% of what Love can give them out of KO, plus one of, if not, the best defensive guard in the league, in Bradley. Sully gives them another rotational big with starter potential. #16 gives them a shot at a guy like Denzel Valentine, to score off the bench, which is what they desperately need.

After watching Cleveland get burned by trading #1 overall away for Love, I don't really see any of the top 5 pick teams lining up to offer a trade for Love. Maybe Minnesota, but Cleveland obviously doesn't make that deal, because it just admits obvious defeat.

Cleveland doesn't need roster depth at all, they just need a bit better roster construction.  I mean Mo Williams and Timofey Mozgov aren't even in the rotation for them.  The problem is basically Love/Irving/James just don't fit that well and 2 of the 3 are pretty bad defenders.  If they can turn at least one of Irving or Love into a more balanced two way player (even one not as good) that should do a great deal for that team.

Wait Cleveland doesn't need roster depth? Their bench is an absolute disaster. It may even be the worst in the league. Mo Williams is completely washed up, Mosgov has not developed at all and can only be effective against the slowest of centers. Their best bench play has come from a 35 Richard Jefferson. Frye is a good jump shooting big, but clearly a role player.  Shumpert looks like an ok defensive specialist but has no offense. Delladova would be better served as a 3rd string point guard when defense is really needed. The end of their bench is probably the worst in the league as James Jones, Sasha Kaun, Dahntay Jones and Jordan McCrae (if he is still on their roster) do not have any future in the league.

[mctyson]

Kevin Love's trade value isn't as great as I was once thought it was I'll say that. Yeah he'd fit in well under CBS but the dude is a statue on defense. How would CBS hide him on that side of the ball?

Just like how CBS hid Sully and KO.

Sully is a very good defender.  Do not compare him to Love.

[sdceltsfan]

"Cleveland doesn't need roster depth at all, they just need a bit better roster construction.  I mean Mo Williams and Timofey Mozgov aren't even in the rotation for them.  The problem is basically Love/Irving/James just don't fit that well and 2 of the 3 are pretty bad defenders.  If they can turn at least one of Irving or Love into a more balanced two way player (even one not as good) that should do a great deal for that team. "


Have you not been watching the finals? Their bench scoring is AWFUL. Their defense is worse. Mo Williams and Shumpert are just names at this point.

[Csfan1984]

If Cavs offer Love for AB and Crowder no picks just that. I take the deal. Wouldn't give up much more.


Edit add:OK maybe throw in JJ too. Cavs could also use JJ in that package for that style of play. And that isn't a big blow to add him to the deal.

C's would just be opening another hole in the team with that deal. A third team would have to be involved that wants the C's picks/younger players.

Not only that, but then the Cavs would crush the C's head to head...

As I addressed the first person who mentioned this. C's still have the ton of picks and 3rd overall to deal.

[flybono]

The 3rd overall pick is a start

[loco_91]

I agree with OP. I think the best way to make this happen is to get a 3rd team involved.

Cleveland sends Love to Boston
Boston sends #3 to Sixers
Sixers send Noel to Cleveland.

The point of this trade is simple: Boston gets the star; Cleveland trades the star for a defensive center who fits perfectly with their current team, and they also free up cap space (Boston can absorb Love without sending back salary). Cleveland can use that cap space to sign a top FA (hopefully not Durant!).

The only reason I might not do this trade is because it helps Cleveland too much.

[TheSundanceKid]

I would still have interest in Love but I don't feel like we would need to give up the #3 pick anymore. Cleveland aren't in the business of draft picks so there would need to be a 3rd team involved as well. I don't see us giving up Bradley or Crowder to get Love, unless it meant KD coming here.

The Anthony trade still makes a lot of sense but would they be willing to take a draft package that doesn't include the Nets picks or the Memphis pick?

[Celtics4ever]

Not me, he can't defend and is soft.

[Surferdad]

I would still have interest in Love but I don't feel like we would need to give up the #3 pick anymore. Cleveland aren't in the business of draft picks so there would need to be a 3rd team involved as well. I don't see us giving up Bradley or Crowder to get Love, unless it meant KD coming here.

The Anthony trade still makes a lot of sense but would they be willing to take a draft package that doesn't include the Nets picks or the Memphis pick?

Bingo.  It makes no sense to give up a lot for Love at this point.  Does he make the Celtics better?  Probably.  Does he move the needle in terms of a championship?  Well apparently not if you have been paying attention to the Finals.

[TheSundanceKid]

I would still have interest in Love but I don't feel like we would need to give up the #3 pick anymore. Cleveland aren't in the business of draft picks so there would need to be a 3rd team involved as well. I don't see us giving up Bradley or Crowder to get Love, unless it meant KD coming here.

The Anthony trade still makes a lot of sense but would they be willing to take a draft package that doesn't include the Nets picks or the Memphis pick?

Bingo.  It makes no sense to give up a lot for Love at this point.  Does he make the Celtics better?  Probably.  Does he move the needle in terms of a championship?  Well apparently not if you have been paying attention to the Finals.

He definitely makes us better. Through this experience with Cleveland he has never been put in a comfort zone. Operating in a pick and roll situation with Isaiah would be a nightmare for opponents. He is tailor made for the system we run. Would he take us to a championship level? No, however he would get us to one piece away and that is when Durant to Boston or something similar becomes a lot more realistic