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Which of the following would you rather have?

Avery Bradley and the 3rd pick in this draft
11 (19%)
Marcus Smart and the 3rd pick in this draft
20 (34.5%)
IT
6 (10.3%)
Rozier, KO, #16, #23, #31, #35, #45, #58, RJ Hunter, and Jordan Mickey
6 (10.3%)
Jae Crowder and the 3rd pick in this draft
15 (25.9%)

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Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2016, 01:41:23 AM »

Offline ThePaintedArea

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Can I have IT and the 3rd?

Yes, my son.  And all the other choices as well, for I am the spirit of basketball future.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2016, 08:37:39 AM »

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Marcus Smart sucks. He will never live up to his hype. I see a 2nd string bench role player that's it. I'd rather get rid of that mistake then to try n build around him.

Whatever you think of his offense, Smart most certainly doesn't suck.

Kid is a future DPOY candidate, whose absolute floor is a rich mans Tony Allen.

You think TA sucks too?
I definitely don't think you could get anything great offering T Allen and the 3rd pick (not even years ago when he was younger)

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2016, 08:40:31 AM »

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Marcus Smart sucks. He will never live up to his hype. I see a 2nd string bench role player that's it. I'd rather get rid of that mistake then to try n build around him.

Smart is a solid young player and helped Boston win playoff games basically single-handedly.
Except when he was shooting airballs where he sorta helped lose them single handedly.
We know you both hate Smart. He was very good in game 4. He hit some clutch shots in game 3 and basically won us game 4. i like him a lot you guys don't like him at all. I doubt either of our opinions are gonna be changed, but I hope you can both admit Marcus played well in the playoffs.
He did some good things in the playoffs. Whoop de doo. Now go learn to shoot.

He got a bunch of clutch shots in the playoffs? And Smart doesn't try to score enough to lose games on his own.

Eja, I don't get how you can possibly be so pessimistic. This team is as well set up for the future as any team in the NBA. You make it seem like were up shiz's creek without a paddle. A lot of teams would kill to be in our position.

Rome wasn't built in a day. This is year 3 of our rebuild. Patience is a virtue.
Forgive me for wanting fireworks now...this year....when Durant is a free agent.

Yes I think we're not as well off as people think. I think a lot of these constant proposed deals of Smart and #3 for Jimmy Butler are way off and would never get a deal like that done.

I think our problem is the 3rd pick in a 2 player draft isn't very valuable and our young guys of note (Smart, KO, Rozier, Mickey, RJ, Young) aren't elite and don't look like they will be.

They're all singles. We're trying to trade singles and a chance at a double for a homerun and I don't think it will happen.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2016, 08:56:06 AM »

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Marcus Smart sucks. He will never live up to his hype. I see a 2nd string bench role player that's it. I'd rather get rid of that mistake then to try n build around him.

Whatever you think of his offense, Smart most certainly doesn't suck.

Kid is a future DPOY candidate, whose absolute floor is a rich mans Tony Allen.

You think TA sucks too?
I definitely don't think you could get anything great offering T Allen and the 3rd pick (not even years ago when he was younger)

We got Ray Allen for #5 when TA was starting his prime.

I think it's fair to say we could get more than that for #3 and TA around the same time.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2016, 08:57:56 AM »

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Marcus Smart sucks. He will never live up to his hype. I see a 2nd string bench role player that's it. I'd rather get rid of that mistake then to try n build around him.

Whatever you think of his offense, Smart most certainly doesn't suck.

Kid is a future DPOY candidate, whose absolute floor is a rich mans Tony Allen.

You think TA sucks too?
I definitely don't think you could get anything great offering T Allen and the 3rd pick (not even years ago when he was younger)

We got Ray Allen for #5 when TA was starting his prime.

I think it's fair to say we could get more than that for #3 and TA around the same time.
Great. Let's see it. Let's see the 32 year old all star that we get for this.

When that happened we also sent Delonte (I guess that would be Rozier) and Wally who had been to an all star game in his career. So .....IT?

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2016, 09:09:02 AM »

Offline BDeCosta26

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Marcus Smart sucks. He will never live up to his hype. I see a 2nd string bench role player that's it. I'd rather get rid of that mistake then to try n build around him.

Whatever you think of his offense, Smart most certainly doesn't suck.

Kid is a future DPOY candidate, whose absolute floor is a rich mans Tony Allen.

You think TA sucks too?
I definitely don't think you could get anything great offering T Allen and the 3rd pick (not even years ago when he was younger)

We got Ray Allen for #5 when TA was starting his prime.

I think it's fair to say we could get more than that for #3 and TA around the same time.
Great. Let's see it. Let's see the 32 year old all star that we get for this.

When that happened we also sent Delonte (I guess that would be Rozier) and Wally who had been to an all star game in his career. So .....IT?

C'mon. Wally was washed up by then, and Delonte was about equal to RJ Hunter at that point. If I could trade #5, RJ and Jerebko for 32 year old Ray Allen this year I probably would. Besides, thT deal was an "overpay" at the time and we only did it because it meant KG.

And any reasonable fan would know that's not the way it works. Smart and #3 is a legit starting point for a big trade. The #3 pick is always pretty dang valuable, even in the worst drafts (which this one certainly is not). Big trades are a combination of opportunity and assets. We have the assets, what depends is who's looking to move someone.

Of course we don't know that, but all we can do is be ready to make offers when the chances come. I think your right that Chicago would want more for Butler, but Smart or Crowder and #3 is a great place to start. If they're moving Butler they're rebuilding so it would take a few extra assets, but we have plenty of those.

Think something like: One of Smart/Crowder/Bradley, Rozier, #3, #16 and the Minny 2nd in 2017 or own 1st in 2018 sounds more like it. But the key pieces are the same.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2016, 09:09:44 AM »

Offline TheSundanceKid

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Tough choice between Marcus and Jae for me. I think there is more likely to be duplication with Marcus than Crowder with the 3rd pick. However Smart is the most promising player on the roster. I have total believe in him to become a franchise cornerstone in the same way Paul Pierce did.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2016, 09:59:46 AM »

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All FIRST Defensive team while being a good shooter > Crowder > Smart.  Therefore to me it's a no brainer... Bradley + 3rd pick is the most valuable. 

Bradley's contract is a good one, and considering the huge cap increase the differences between Bradely & Crowder's contracts are becoming pretty nominal. 

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2016, 06:26:13 PM »

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I am really really curious what people say here. If you had to start the Celtics from scratch and you could only have one of these what do you go with?

I said Jae and the #3 but I was torn between that and Smart and #3.

Right now Jae is the best 2-way player.  I think Smart's ceiling is higher, and he is younger, so going with him is probably a better for a youth movement.  But I feel like you could build a decent team right away with Jae, #3, and a couple smart free agent signings.

Re: Which of the following assets/situations would you rather have?
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2016, 09:22:47 PM »

Offline Bobshot

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Right now, they have all of these guys, and the #3 pick. So they don't have to choose unless they make a trade. And then it depends on who they are getting in return.