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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2016, 11:34:02 AM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

This is what I mean is Ainge has kind of painted himself into an interesting situation here where people are thinking he's going to do one thing when he really could do something totally else.  I hope we draft bender.   I don't want anymore guards.  I do like jaylen b rown though.  Hield and Murray I am not big on.  Shooters yes.  With the 3rd pick no.

At 3rd I hope we take the bpa.  I don't think you spend that pick on shooters unless they are steph curry.  Neither hield or murray are.

I take a player who can really move this franchise forward.  Hield and Murray aren't doing that.

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2016, 11:35:45 AM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Hmm... doesn't that require 'gambling' that your picks next year will line up with those bigs?

And are next year's crop of bigs really any better?

Giles, Bryant, Bolden and Allen (the four 7 footers currently ranked high for next year) all have great wingspan and bodies, but not one of them can shoot worth crap away from the basket.   All of them look like long term projects --- starting _next_ year.

Jonathan Isaac, a 'small forward' who is shooting up in length, Giannis-style, may end up the most intriguing 7 footer by next year if he can put on any semblance of weight.  He'll be someone to watch at FSU.
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2016, 11:36:34 AM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

This is what I mean is Ainge has kind of painted himself into an interesting situation here where people are thinking he's going to do one thing when he really could do something totally else.  I hope we draft bender.   I don't want anymore guards.  I do like jaylen b rown though.  Hield and Murray I am not big on.  Shooters yes.  With the 3rd pick no.

At 3rd I hope we take the bpa.  I don't think you spend that pick on shooters unless they are steph curry.  Neither hield or murray are.

Me too, and Danny seems committed to that strategy. I trust Danny to discover who the BPA actually is.
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2016, 11:37:52 AM »

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Buddy Hield has serious untapped potential still in the tank. He progressed very quickly once he started rolling over 3 years.
I think Danny looks at Hield and sees a lot of James Harden without the overall offensive talent but a better attitude and desire.
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2016, 11:38:24 AM »

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has Sherrod ever been right?

Every year the rumor mill starts from one of his "posts" and its NEVER right..

c'mon lets all just stay away

LOL - this is the best and most salient point.

To his credit, the OP did express shock and surprise at the idea that Blakely might make sense for a change.

Broken clocks do get it right once around the dial.
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« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2016, 11:42:57 AM »

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I'd take Skal Labisierre over both. U guys r nuts lol

I'd be fine with taking Skal, if he dropped to #16.   But I expect him to be off the board somewhere in between our #3 and #16.  Probably in the #8-10 range.
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« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2016, 11:43:38 AM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

I listened to that entire segment n I didn't hear him say anything u claim was opposite to what I posted 😨

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2016, 11:45:40 AM »

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I'd take Skal Labisierre over both. U guys r nuts lol

I'd be fine with taking Skal, if he dropped to #16.   But I expect him to be off the board somewhere in between our #3 and #16.  Probably in the #8-10 range.

Yes that's why it would be wise to package #23 & #16 to move up into the top 10 and grab Skal 👍

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2016, 11:46:05 AM »

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I'd take Skal Labisierre over both. U guys r nuts lol

I'd be fine with taking Skal, if he dropped to #16.   But I expect him to be off the board somewhere in between our #3 and #16.  Probably in the #8-10 range.

Yes that's why it would be wise to package #23 & #16 to move up into the top 10 and grab Skal 👍

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« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2016, 11:50:41 AM »

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I'd take Skal Labisierre over both. U guys r nuts lol

I'd be fine with taking Skal, if he dropped to #16.   But I expect him to be off the board somewhere in between our #3 and #16.  Probably in the #8-10 range.

A first round that gives the Boston Celtics Buddy Heild and Skal Labisierre would be a success. Move players like Smart and Crowder for a Jimmy Butler or Okefor would be an idea but there's other options in FA as well. Why go draft Bender if we can shoot for Whiteside in FA ?

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2016, 11:50:57 AM »

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We need to take a player that can move the needle for this team.  I can't stand CSN normally. A Sherrod is no different but I agree with him here. 

Hield to me is not that good.  I could be wrong but he is strictly a shooting guard and can't handle the ball like Curry.  Doesn't have the athleticism of Ray Allen.  I don't think he is in that class of player.   

I was not that high on Simmons or Ingram either.  I think they are potential stars but limited.   3rd is perfect to me.  Bender or Brown is who I wanted and still do.  I would not trade the pick. 

Yeah it might take patience and people are going to disagree with me but I really feel like Bender or Brown is where it's at this draft and have always felt that way if you've read my posts.  I am not that high on Murray either.  I don't see either of those guys winning us anything. 

Ainge himself said in that interview that the media has kind of painted this draft as a two player draft in Simmons and Ingram.  I see this draft the same way.

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2016, 11:54:03 AM »

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We need to take a player that can move the needle for this team.  I can't stand CSN normally. A Sherrod is no different but I agree with him here. 

Hield to me is not that good.  I could be wrong but he is strictly a shooting guard and can't handle the ball like Curry.  Doesn't have the athleticism of Ray Allen.  I don't think he is in that class of player.   

I was not that high on Simmons or Ingram either.  I think they are potential stars but limited.   3rd is perfect to me.  Bender or Brown is who I wanted and still do.  I would not trade the pick. 

Yeah it might take patience and people are going to disagree with me but I really feel like Bender or Brown is where it's at this draft and have always felt that way if you've read my posts.  I am not that high on Murray either.  I don't see either of those guys winning us anything.

Bro, Bender is garbage. He don't belong in the top 10 plain n simple. Buddy could replace Smart and trade Smart for a better player. Why draft Bender when we can shoot for proven talent like Whiteside in FA ?

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« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2016, 12:13:15 PM »

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We need to take a player that can move the needle for this team.  I can't stand CSN normally. A Sherrod is no different but I agree with him here. 

Hield to me is not that good.  I could be wrong but he is strictly a shooting guard and can't handle the ball like Curry.  Doesn't have the athleticism of Ray Allen.  I don't think he is in that class of player.   

I was not that high on Simmons or Ingram either.  I think they are potential stars but limited.   3rd is perfect to me.  Bender or Brown is who I wanted and still do.  I would not trade the pick. 

Yeah it might take patience and people are going to disagree with me but I really feel like Bender or Brown is where it's at this draft and have always felt that way if you've read my posts.  I am not that high on Murray either.  I don't see either of those guys winning us anything.

Bro, Bender is garbage. He don't belong in the top 10 plain n simple. Buddy could replace Smart and trade Smart for a better player. Why draft Bender when we can shoot for proven talent like Whiteside in FA ?

Different players.  Whiteside is a shot-blocking low-post protecting center who's offensive game is limited to rolling & face-up near the hoop.   Bender is more of a high paint defender who can switch on to the perimeter and who has a stretch-shooting offensive game.  Bender may project ultimately as more PF instead of C.

'Not saying he's the preferable option.  Just pointing out they are different types of players.

I think you don't decide on one based on the other.  Whatever player we draft shouldn't be counted on to help a ton this next season.  If we want Whiteside, we want him no matter who we draft.  And if we are interested in a long-term high-upside project player, we should draft him regardless of what veteran FA we might sign for immediate help.
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« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2016, 12:29:33 PM »

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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2016, 12:33:00 PM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1FcEAJ-6Ok

That's good, he can shoot open shots. But hows his defence?
Ive read in a few places that hes got decent awareness and plays good team defense, but is pretty garbage on ball due to a lack of lateral quickness.