A Sherrod is actually making sense to me

[mkogav]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1FcEAJ-6Ok

Wow.  Kid never hits the rim.  Except one time where it went straight up and then swished on the way down.  We could certainly use Murray.

Ainge will find a way to trade Bradley or Smart to free up space if we have to take a guard.

Awesome, another undersized combo guard!!!!!!

Mk

[CoachBo]

He wants bender.  Feels we can afford to take a gamble since we are a playoff team and we don't have to give up anything to get him.  We have more picks coming.  We can take an 18 year old and afford to bring him a long and anything he brings is a plus.  Not taking Bender is like not taking a chance on something really great to me.

Same ideology Detroit used when they took Darko.

And how'd that work out?

Bender would be the biggest draft mistake in the history of this franchise.

[BitterJim]

He wants bender.  Feels we can afford to take a gamble since we are a playoff team and we don't have to give up anything to get him.  We have more picks coming.  We can take an 18 year old and afford to bring him a long and anything he brings is a plus.  Not taking Bender is like not taking a chance on something really great to me.

Same ideology Detroit used when they took Darko.

You can find a failed example of literally any draft strategy

[Who]

He wants bender.  Feels we can afford to take a gamble since we are a playoff team and we don't have to give up anything to get him.  We have more picks coming.  We can take an 18 year old and afford to bring him a long and anything he brings is a plus.  Not taking Bender is like not taking a chance on something really great to me.

Same ideology Detroit used when they took Darko.

You can find a failed example of literally any draft strategy

How many top 3 picks or top 5 picks has this strategy worked out well for?

I am struggling to think of any.

[soulman]

I hope we won t draft Dragan Bender, he is highly overratted, i am from europe i know this.

[Celtics4ever]

I think he has the most potential yes.  He is a gamble though.  As far as upside he is.

I recall when folks here thought Sully had potential.   But guys who can't jump who already possess skills have the least potential.   Skills get better often.   Athletic ability is much harder to improve.   Guys who low skills and high athletic potential have the most over all potential because they can gain skills.   The opposite is not always true, aside from strength.   Strength, which Bender needs is fairly easy to build up.   The glaring lack of lift is much harder to improve.

You can't teach height, so he has that.   He does have some agility, but not the superior kind that makes you go wow.   Maybe to a guy who have never played a high level of ball it looks good and impressive.   But he is not a complete stiff.

I think he has more potential than Sully, because he is young.  He should be able to gain some strength and does not appear to have a weight/laziness issue.   The knocks on him to me are the lack of production in a lower level league, he can't jump over two sheets of paper and he is a project that will take time to build strength.   He has a big lack of power in the vids I watched and lack of explosiveness, Porzingas did not.   Also, he appears to shun to the dirty work on the playing low and see himself as a SF/perimeter type.    He actually looked better guarding guys on the perimeter than down low.   This may actually help him in CBS eyes.

If your agreeing with Blakely, go back to bed, it is a bad dream.

[Sketch5]

Why not take Murry, Brown or Heild at 3 and take a flier on Thon Maker at 23 if he's still there. He has some impressive vert numbers at the columbine. Could translate into a good rim protector and sounds like he has a good motor. And if he's a bust, well you didn't use the 3rd pick on him.

[biggs]

I don't think Ainge should feel pressure to make a trade just the same or draft players that aren't going to beat lebron either.  I think that stuff is silly. If he can make trades that position us to do that that's another story but show it to me.

Murray isn't beating Lebron. I can tell you that right now.  Neither is Hield.  Good players but no. Hield maybe solely as an off guard with a really good supporting case and big men.

Marcus's defense sets him apart.  So does Benders long term upside.  Plus we keep the nets picks the next 2 years.

You can talk about elite defense all day. All I saw in the playoffs was Marcus flopping about and our team defense collapsing in on itself like a dying star.

I'm starting to warm up to Bender, but something about this situation is eerily similar to.. dare I say it...Darko?

Look, after seeing Porzingis, I think all of us would love a franchise player of his caliber, especially if these reports are true that Bender is an even better shooter, but I'm not buying the "we have more picks, can risk BLOWING this pick" logic.

There is no guarantee that the Brooklyn picks will be lottery bound next year, or the following year, and it's most likey that this #3 will be the highest pick we get. So basically don't screw it up!

Do your research Danny. You said that if you got a look at Poryzingis, you would have known of his potential. Please puck the best player for our future. If it's Bender, so be it. Just DON'T screw it up!

[Celtics18]

I like Buddy. I feel like his mentality as a natural scorer will translate to the next level.  Give that kid a hoop and a basketball, and he'll get buckets, wherever, against whomever.

This is a quality that can't be accounted for by wingspan, max vert, lane agility etc . . .

I'll take Bender, Murray, or Dunn, I guess, and root for them as Celtics, but Buddy is the guy I have my heart set on.

[jambr380]

Why not take Murry, Brown or Heild at 3 and take a flier on Thon Maker at 23 if he's still there. He has some impressive vert numbers at the columbine. Could translate into a good rim protector and sounds like he has a good motor. And if he's a bust, well you didn't use the 3rd pick on him.

Please - this is all I want out of this draft. He seems to be playing his way into the #16 pick, but that is fine, too. It's like everybody is trying to talk themselves out of Maker rather than acknowledging all of his positives. Bender and Maker are the same age, they are both skinny, can shoot, and move well, but Maker can jump a bit higher and seems to be way more intense.

I still have no idea why Bender is a blue chip prospect while Maker is an afterthought.

[cltc5]

If you knew what next years draft has for big men you would not gamble the 3rd pick on a maybe/unspectacular Bender for a future pf. Bam Bam, Thomas Bryant, Jeanne and etc. are all better gambles IMO.

Agreed.  Let's not reach for bender because that's what he's projected.  Heild is the most NBA ready imo.  Murray is a lights out shooter but needs space.  Heild can create his own shot and knock down the 3

[cltc5]

Why not take Murry, Brown or Heild at 3 and take a flier on Thon Maker at 23 if he's still there. He has some impressive vert numbers at the columbine. Could translate into a good rim protector and sounds like he has a good motor. And if he's a bust, well you didn't use the 3rd pick on him.

Please - this is all I want out of this draft. He seems to be playing his way into the #16 pick, but that is fine, too. It's like everybody is trying to talk themselves out of Maker rather than acknowledging all of his positives. Bender and Maker are the same age, they are both skinny, can shoot, and move well, but Maker can jump a bit higher and seems to be way more intense.

I still have no idea why Bender is a blue chip prospect while Maker is an afterthought.

Agreed.  Heild and maker would be great for us.  Both good motors.

[PaulAllen]

has Sherrod ever been right?

Every year the rumor mill starts from one of his "posts" and its NEVER right..

c'mon lets all just stay away

[Snakehead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1FcEAJ-6Ok

Wow.  Kid never hits the rim.  Except one time where it went straight up and then swished on the way down.  We could certainly use Murray.

Ainge will find a way to trade Bradley or Smart to free up space if we have to take a guard.

Awesome, another undersized combo guard!!!!!!

Mk

6' 5" is not undersized.  He's not even really a combo guard.  He is a shooter and scorer.  Pretty pure SG.  He is not much of a passer.

[Snakehead]

Murray is a lights out shooter but needs space.  Heild can create his own shot and knock down the 3

I would say the exact opposite.  Hield is a better shooter but Murray is better off the dribble.  Murray is quite good off the dribble, it's why he plays PG at all for UK.  He is not a passer.  He was playing there because he has handle.

But Buddy did develop there over time.  I don't dislike Buddy over Murray really, can see the arguments.