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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2016, 03:37:55 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

This ceiling word is deadly

James Young still has more "upside" than  many guys from the 2015 draft. But You think Utah for example would trade hood for him??

Once bender rots on a NBA bench, his value with sink deeper than......


Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2016, 03:40:18 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

I wouldn't bet on it.  Having said that, though, I'd like to know when Freak is going to start fulfilling on all this promise he's got.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2016, 04:15:41 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

I wouldn't bet on it.  Having said that, though, I'd like to know when Freak is going to start fulfilling on all this promise he's got.
Next season. He's starting PG
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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2016, 04:21:12 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

I wouldn't bet on it.  Having said that, though, I'd like to know when Freak is going to start fulfilling on all this promise he's got.
Next season. He's starting PG

Let me know when him running PG results in wins though.  I don't think he's ever going to be a PG, and I like him.  It's a mistake.  I can see the justification with their current lack of PGs but they need to fix that ASAP.

Hopefully they get a real PG and let him play SF and just be able to pass.  You can be a SF and the best passer on the team, ask Bird and LeBron.  The two best SFs were and they were never playing PG for their team.  And I haven't seen passing or ball handling in the same realm as either of those guys from Giannis.  The whole thing is silly.


Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

This ceiling word is deadly

James Young still has more "upside" than  many guys from the 2015 draft. But You think Utah for example would trade hood for him??


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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2016, 04:25:52 PM »

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Danny will work him out with other players, hopefully, to better assess what he can offer.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2016, 04:38:18 PM »

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Because there's absolutely nothing to suggest he will have a meaningful NBA career.
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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2016, 04:39:22 PM »

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He's soft.  He gets love because he's big and young and porzingus comparison.
no. say what you will about him, but be accurate. every indicator shows he is a competitive person who plays hard and does not shy away from contact.

i think he will a star in the nba. but i also completely acknowledge that i could be full of crap and he might be gone and a bust.

pho said it well. this guy is hard to really judge on how he will turn out. it is a huge risk at #3, but he could be a great investment at #3. ainge may have a tough choice to make here.
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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2016, 04:55:30 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

I wouldn't bet on it.  Having said that, though, I'd like to know when Freak is going to start fulfilling on all this promise he's got.
Next season. He's starting PG

I'm being unfair to the kid.  Actually, I'm rooting for him.

He will not be guarding point guards any time soon, that much is certain. But it'd be cool to see him as the primary ballhandler.


Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2016, 05:04:47 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

This ceiling word is deadly

James Young still has more "upside" than  many guys from the 2015 draft. But You think Utah for example would trade hood for him??

Once bender rots on a NBA bench, his value with sink deeper than......

James Young never had 'Ceiling'.  The guys only upsides were his outside shooting and the fact that he has excellent size for a guard.

He was always a garbage defender, he was never a quality ball handler or passer, he always had terrible basketball IQ, and he was always pretty mediocre athletically.

James Young looked like he wa going to be a bum from day one, and i still have no clue why half the people here believed otherwise.

The only thing he could do was shoot threes.  How often do guys of that description EVER become anything in he NBA? 

People just obsess over anybody who it's young.  Somehow being 18 or 19 instantly meabs you uave a high ceiling.  I think if my overweight butt was in the draft and i was 18, people would rave about my upside.

As for the OP's question, People are down on bender bevause right now he pretty much looks like a miss first round talent at best.  The only thing he does well is be versatile on defense - its his one little trick.  Everything else he's average at best with, but people are overblowing how good he is at various things seemingly because they are having Porzingis chills and want to buy in on the international hype.

Bender has done nothing to show hes deserving of a top 3 pick.  He's a more mobile (but far weaker and rawer) version of Kelly Olynyk - and Olynyk went 13th in 2014 mostly because of his age.

And that's where the penny drops. Bender it's yet another rookies to be overhyped because of his age.
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Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2016, 05:26:33 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

This ceiling word is deadly

James Young still has more "upside" than  many guys from the 2015 draft. But You think Utah for example would trade hood for him??

Once bender rots on a NBA bench, his value with sink deeper than......

James Young never had 'Ceiling'.  The guys only upsides were his outside shooting and the fact that he has excellent size for a guard.

He was always a garbage defender, he was never a quality ball handler or passer, he always had terrible basketball IQ, and he was always pretty mediocre athletically.

James Young looked like he wa going to be a bum from day one, and i still have no clue why half the people here believed otherwise.

The only thing he could do was shoot threes.  How often do guys of that description EVER become anything in he NBA? 

People just obsess over anybody who it's young.  Somehow being 18 or 19 instantly meabs you uave a high ceiling.  I think if my overweight butt was in the draft and i was 18, people would rave about my upside.

As for the OP's question, People are down on bender bevause right now he pretty much looks like a miss first round talent at best.  The only thing he does well is be versatile on defense - its his one little trick.  Everything else he's average at best with, but people are overblowing how good he is at various things seemingly because they are having Porzingis chills and want to buy in on the international hype.

Bender has done nothing to show hes deserving of a top 3 pick.  He's a more mobile (but far weaker and rawer) version of Kelly Olynyk - and Olynyk went 13th in 2014 mostly because of his age.

And that's where the penny drops. Bender it's yet another rookies to be overhyped because of his age.
"The only thing he could do was shoot threes.  How often do guys of that description EVER become anything in he NBA? "

If he could hit threes he'd be part of the regular rotation. He can't hit them...that's the problem.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2016, 05:34:44 PM »

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Because he's a Euro?  I mean, I've seen the youtube videos and that's about it.  I have no clue whatsoever whether he will be good or not.  But I suspect DA does.

So does anyone know anything at all about this kid to suggest we should stay away from him?

The same people down on him were down on Kristaps as well.

Nobody knows how this kid will do in the league.  I'm with you, I suspect DA has a good idea though.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2016, 05:40:22 PM »

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Wasn't this a similar situation with the greek freak?  Lots of people seemed to complain about that one.
As it has been pointed ad nauseum by now, Anthetokounmpo wasn't the third pick in the draft.

But Bender has a higher ceiling than Giannis.

This ceiling word is deadly

James Young still has more "upside" than  many guys from the 2015 draft. But You think Utah for example would trade hood for him??

Once bender rots on a NBA bench, his value with sink deeper than......

James Young never had 'Ceiling'.  The guys only upsides were his outside shooting and the fact that he has excellent size for a guard.

He was always a garbage defender, he was never a quality ball handler or passer, he always had terrible basketball IQ, and he was always pretty mediocre athletically.

James Young looked like he wa going to be a bum from day one, and i still have no clue why half the people here believed otherwise.

The only thing he could do was shoot threes.  How often do guys of that description EVER become anything in he NBA? 

People just obsess over anybody who it's young.  Somehow being 18 or 19 instantly meabs you uave a high ceiling.  I think if my overweight butt was in the draft and i was 18, people would rave about my upside.

As for the OP's question, People are down on bender bevause right now he pretty much looks like a miss first round talent at best.  The only thing he does well is be versatile on defense - its his one little trick.  Everything else he's average at best with, but people are overblowing how good he is at various things seemingly because they are having Porzingis chills and want to buy in on the international hype.

Bender has done nothing to show hes deserving of a top 3 pick.  He's a more mobile (but far weaker and rawer) version of Kelly Olynyk - and Olynyk went 13th in 2014 mostly because of his age.

And that's where the penny drops. Bender it's yet another rookies to be overhyped because of his age.

Good pts overall. I mean just look at benders stats. His 3 pt shooting  (something ppl gushing about ) is less than 30 percent

How can a guy who some compare to Pau gasol, can't "gasol" it in this weak league he is playing at.

But it doesn't matter and I can't even blame bender one sec , he is going to be chosen somewhere in the top 10.  Talk about looking pretty or showing flashes and getting rewarded for it.

Whatever the case, I will be stunned if Danny takes him. Especially 3-5 range. 


Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 05:42:13 PM »

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No Bender, please.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2016, 08:43:23 PM »

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Most people are down on Bender because he played internationally and fans haven't watched him consistently like the other prospects who played NCAA basketball. That's about it; simply about exposure.

Re: Why is everyone down on Bender?
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 08:57:39 PM »

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Most people are down on Bender because he played internationally and fans haven't watched him consistently like the other prospects who played NCAA basketball. That's about it; simply about exposure.
Well more like not getting any minutes playing internationally. Talk about a huge red flag that some here cannot ignore.