PLEASE Draft Sabonis!

[Eddie20]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Woah, that accusation shows up a lot in draft conversation, in this case the Lee vs Sabonis comp has a point. Your original point is that Sabonis is a good fit for our offense, Eddie20 pointed out that a player with a similar skill set struggled in our offense.

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range

You essentially just described GSW David Lee. Lee vs Sabonis is a fair comp maybe try to keep the race baiting to a minimum,  Averaged a double double, $50+ million carreer earnings,  All star, NBA champion. Domantas Sabonis would be very happy to have Lee's career.

Sorry, but no- Lee was never that athletic even when he was young on the Knicks. I do not think they are similar in their styles. Also, Sabonis shot 36% from deep which is pretty decent for a big man who just started shooting 3s this past season.

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

He shot 5-14 and that's from college 3 distance, which is shorter than the NBA distance. Lee was very athletic. Not sure if you remember him correctly.

[Eddie20]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

[jmen788]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

[Eddie20]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

DX on Lee

A fantastic finisher around the basket thanks to the quickness in which he gets off his feet. Does a great job cleaning the offensive glass. Has no trouble getting off his jumper when he turns to face and has the quickness to get by many power forwards. A solid defensive player due to his athleticism and effort level. Very good at defending players that like to stake out in the high post. Has the lateral quickness to stay in front of most power forwards. Suffocates his man on the perimeter when he knows he has a quickness advantage.

[Tr1boy]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant. And again, he shot 36% from 3 his first year shooting 3s. He's not Reggie Miller but in the big picture it is a positive indicator for the future.

Eddie20 refuses to believe this. Also that Sabonis improved his ft shooting from 66 to 74 percent (fresh to soph)

You got a guy that was shy to even shoot the mid range in year 1.   I thought he wouldn't even be a 1st round pick , if he declared after year 1. But he came back and improved his game. Better jump shot all around.  Bc gonzaga wanted him to play down low (to utilizie his biggest strength - post skills ). , is he being punished or labeled as some that he can't shoot

Laughable

All Sabonis did is accomplish xyz last season.  And as a 19 yr old.  He is a winner and knows how to play

He would be a solid fit under CBS and would get min on the court sooner than later

[Smartacus]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

https://youtu.be/7EAL9Tj-8FU

Ever see Sabonis pull off any of these?

[Tr1boy]

Sabonis is an easy upgrade to Sullinger and Zeller

So we should try to grab him one way or the other.I like Ellenson too but his perimeter d is as bad as sully, though has more length to be a better shot blocker

Does anybody remember gonzaga vs duke? Last year's elite 8 or finar four game??  Sabonis did a real nice job on Okafor. A guy 50 pounds heavier and with 7'4 wingspan.    A top prospect.    Sabonis lost quite a bit of support in his 2nd year but still carried gonzaga to the round of 16. If it wasnt for Syracuse last 5 min pressuring D (that worked) , gonzaga would of made it to elite 8

Syracuse knew Sabonis was the target to receive the ball all game long but they couldn't contain him, especially in the 4th. 19 pts, 17 rebounds is amazing

[jmen788]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

https://youtu.be/7EAL9Tj-8FU

Ever see Sabonis pull off any of these?

Haha, I actually laughed out loud! I bet once Domantas Sabonis has been in the league for over 10 years that I can find a comparable highlight. It's really funny that you think one clip proves anything- Lee was never known for being an athletic player. And sorry, dime a dozen draft web sites don't count as citation worthy sources.

[Smartacus]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

https://youtu.be/7EAL9Tj-8FU

Ever see Sabonis pull off any of these?

Haha, I actually laughed out loud! I bet once Domantas Sabonis has been in the league for over 10 years that I can find a comparable highlight. It's really funny that you think one clip proves anything- Lee was never known for being an athletic player. And sorry, dime a dozen draft web sites don't count as citation worthy sources.

If by dime a dozen you mean most respected choice in the draft community, then yeah. DX isn't some forum poster spouting out opinions from YouTube clips it's a year round draft focused news outlet that travels around the world.

Also I like Sabonis and hope we do draft him. I just think that you're being sensationalist to say that A. David Lee was not athletic and B. Sabonis is a far superior prospect to what Lee was at the time.

It sounds like you've made up your mind and are denying the credibility of any evidence that doesn't support your argument.

[nickagneta]

Please. No. Wasnt 18 pages in the other Sabonis thread enough hype to last a lifetime for a late lottery, good floor, low ceiling player?

[crimson_stallion]

Sabonis is an easy upgrade to Sullinger and Zeller

So we should try to grab him one way or the other.I like Ellenson too but his perimeter d is as bad as sully, though has more length to be a better shot blocker

Does anybody remember gonzaga vs duke? Last year's elite 8 or finar four game??  Sabonis did a real nice job on Okafor. A guy 50 pounds heavier and with 7'4 wingspan.    A top prospect.    Sabonis lost quite a bit of support in his 2nd year but still carried gonzaga to the round of 16. If it wasnt for Syracuse last 5 min pressuring D (that worked) , gonzaga would of made it to elite 8

Syracuse knew Sabonis was the target to receive the ball all game long but they couldn't contain him, especially in the 4th. 19 pts, 17 rebounds is amazing

Wow...you're starting that Sabonis ( Wii hasn't played an nba game and nay not even go in the lottery) is an upgrade over Sully and Zeller - two guys who have already started on NBA Playoff calibre teams.

Sabonis' talent set indicates he'll end up somewhere between a solid role player and an average starter.  If he ever end up David Lee good hes overachieved in a massive way.

[jmen788]

Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant.

But you sort of just did...

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

Not really - he's a completely different player style wise than his dad and also has a very different build. I was just saying I like that he comes from the gene pool that he does.

And no Lee was not athletic. He had good fundamentals and gobbled up empty stats on a horrid Knicks team.

https://youtu.be/7EAL9Tj-8FU

Ever see Sabonis pull off any of these?

Haha, I actually laughed out loud! I bet once Domantas Sabonis has been in the league for over 10 years that I can find a comparable highlight. It's really funny that you think one clip proves anything- Lee was never known for being an athletic player. And sorry, dime a dozen draft web sites don't count as citation worthy sources.

If by dime a dozen you mean most respected choice in the draft community, then yeah. DX isn't some forum poster spouting out opinions from YouTube clips it's a year round draft focused news outlet that travels around the world.

Also I like Sabonis and hope we do draft him. I just think that you're being sensationalist to say that A. David Lee was not athletic and B. Sabonis is a far superior prospect to what Lee was at the time.

It sounds like you've made up your mind and are denying the credibility of any evidence that doesn't support your argument.

Not really- I'd be just as happy if we drafted Skal. I personally always thought David Lee was garbage which is why that comparison led me to be so incredulous. He put up empty stats on a dumpster fire Knicks team, and he put up okay stats on a warriors team where he got tons of easy looks due to playing with Steph Curry and company. Lee never led a good team, whereas Domantas did this past season.

I truly don't think Lee was ever very athletic. An interesting story: a friend of mine from college who lives in NY is a basketball nut. He's a wolves fan since he grew up idolizing KG but is stuck with Knicks games when not watching league pass as he lives there. Anyways, a few years ago he was at a nice restaurant on Mother's Day and Dantoni was sitting right behind him in the crowded restaurant, and my friend went off on a tear about how overrated Lee was and that hes just good cuz hes on a bad team, and his uncle goes, "you better watch what you say because Dantoni is right there, as a joke... and Dantoni stood up turned around said have a nice day and left. So he knew Lee sucked too lol.

[Tr1boy]

Please. No. Wasnt 18 pages in the other Sabonis thread enough hype to last a lifetime for a late lottery, good floor, low ceiling player?

How does it make sense instead to draft a player with perceived high ceiling but may reach there.

This is the whole James Young vs Rodney hood debate again

Melo vs ezeli

[A Future of Stevens]

Please. No. Wasnt 18 pages in the other Sabonis thread enough hype to last a lifetime for a late lottery, good floor, low ceiling player?

^ This guy gets it

[alldaboston]

Sabonis should be a banned name.