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PLEASE Draft Sabonis!
« on: May 16, 2016, 05:23:49 AM »

Offline jmen788

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I really think Sabonis fits PERFECTLY with our system and that he is a great player. I am praying we can trade up to get him because he could be gone by pick 12. I would take him over Skal as I think his floor is much higher (although if we somehow got both Sabonis and Skal I would love that, but it won't happen).

If we get a top 2 pick AND get Sabonis, then I will be so incredibly happy... but if we don't get a top 2 pick, if we somehow get Sabonis at 16 or trade up a few spots to get him, I will still be happy because I think he is going to be a real player.

Re: PLEASE Draft Sabonis!
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 06:59:04 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

Re: PLEASE Draft Sabonis!
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 07:11:10 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 07:36:52 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

Lee is 6'9
Sabonis 6'10-6'11

Sabonis a better overall defender

I agree with op. Danny draft Sabonis

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 08:00:23 AM »

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Skal and Sabonis

Or diallo, Sabonis (23 , 9-12(trade up)

Need to add frontcourt depth after sully/Zeller are gone. Maybe amir isn't brought back

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 08:03:54 AM »

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If I was Danny, I would try to package ##16 and 23 in order to move up in the draft. Sabonis wouldn't be a bad pick taken into consideration that this team lacks rim protection.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 08:47:45 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though?

Yes

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 08:52:21 AM »

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Are we talking Lee in his prime or the Lee shell the Celtics got?


Because if he is Lee from his prime, then please draft him and have a player of that skill on a rookie contract.


Especially if the guy would actually be big enough to be a C. 

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 08:58:47 AM »

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Are we talking Lee in his prime or the Lee shell the Celtics got?


Because if he is Lee from his prime, then please draft him and have a player of that skill on a rookie contract.


Especially if the guy would actually be big enough to be a C.

Lee current edition. Prime Lee was a lot more athletic than Sabonis.

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 09:14:06 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2016, 09:42:14 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

No, it has nothing to do with color, bur rather style. I'm not sure where you got that Sabonis has range. He really doesn't. He's improved his range a bit, but he can't stretch defenses out to 3pt range, which is vital nowadays, especially as a 4 on our team.


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Sabonis is hard to place. Everyone likes him. No one really loves him. The rebounding and basketball IQ will both translate. However, questions about which position he defends and his ability to stretch the floor make him somewhat out of step with NBA trends toward versatility and skill.

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Domantas moves well for a big and plays hard, a combination that produces good results on the boards. He does not have much of an offensive game, especially beyond close range.

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Defensively, Sabonis has a lot of room to grow. Not much of a shot blocker or rim protector in general, his lack of elite quickness and length limits him on this end. He is by no means lead-footed, but has struggled to stay in front of quicker forwards at times over the last two years. He does a decent job defending the post, positioning himself fairly well, but struggles to stay straight up defending shots inside, frequently committing unnecessary fouls as a result of that or when his emotions get the best of him.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2016, 09:53:10 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Woah, that accusation shows up a lot in draft conversation, in this case the Lee vs Sabonis comp has a point. Your original point is that Sabonis is a good fit for our offense, Eddie20 pointed out that a player with a similar skill set struggled in our offense.

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Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range

You essentially just described GSW David Lee. Lee vs Sabonis is a fair comp maybe try to keep the race baiting to a minimum,  Averaged a double double, $50+ million carreer earnings,  All star, NBA champion. Domantas Sabonis would be very happy to have Lee's career.

Re: PLEASE Draft Sabonis!
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2016, 09:59:03 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Woah, that accusation shows up a lot in draft conversation, in this case the Lee vs Sabonis comp has a point. Your original point is that Sabonis is a good fit for our offense, Eddie20 pointed out that a player with a similar skill set struggled in our offense.

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Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range

You essentially just described GSW David Lee. Lee vs Sabonis is a fair comp maybe try to keep the race baiting to a minimum,  Averaged a double double, $50+ million carreer earnings,  All star, NBA champion. Domantas Sabonis would be very happy to have Lee's career.

Sorry, but no- Lee was never that athletic even when he was young on the Knicks. I do not think they are similar in their styles. Also, Sabonis shot 36% from deep which is pretty decent for a big man who just started shooting 3s this past season.

It may be silly, but I don't think genes can be underrated here. His dad was a great player and is the only player in NBA history to be drafted twice.

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2016, 10:00:13 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2016, 10:07:21 AM »

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Don't Lee and Sabonis have similar type games, though? Lack range on offense, want to score inside, lack height and/or length, lack ability to finish inside vs length, good rebounding, soild passing, weak defensively, below average lateral quickness making them vulnerable on the perimeter/defending the PNR, and can't protect the rim. I see so many similarities between the two and the fact that Lee was such a bad fit for our offense, that wants to emphasize the ability to shoot and spread the floor at the 4 spot, makes me hesitate on how effective he would actually be. I do like Sabonis, despite his limited ceiling, but don't think he's a good fit.

This is ridiculous. Is your comparison simply because they are both white?

Sabonis rebounds well and can protect the rim a bit, AND he has range. He certainly won't win DPOY but with him at the 4 and a 5 that's good at defense, we are fine (and even without a 5 that's good at defense, our perimeter D masks this shortcoming).

Do you have a better comparison for Sabonis?  And no, he doesn't have range.

Nope, because I think comparisons are by and large stupid and irrelevant. And again, he shot 36% from 3 his first year shooting 3s. He's not Reggie Miller but in the big picture it is a positive indicator for the future.