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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2016, 07:27:30 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2016, 07:31:51 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Hold that thought because we're are interviewing him.

Don't be so fooled by that number. Players tend to not stretch out in order to get even higher vert numbers. So considering that it's said he has a 34-36 vert to begin with I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 40.

Miles Plumlee did that exact thing a few years back. His wingspan was almost 7-1, but his standing reach of just 8-9.5 seemed odd. Then he nailed a vert of 40 inches.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2016, 07:31:55 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

8'9" isn't a bad standing reach, especially with his vertical. It's the same reach as Skal's.


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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2016, 07:36:32 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

8'9" isn't a bad standing reach, especially with his vertical. It's the same reach as Skal's.

surprise to see Skal also had a "short" reach. But he is a PF vs Poeltl who is a classic Center.  We all seen how much zeller has struggled to protect the rim against "cat" like perimeter players.


Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2016, 07:44:42 PM »

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thon maker today really helped himself today no doubt.  9'5 reach is awesome

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2016, 07:47:12 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Hold that thought because we're are interviewing him.

Don't be so fooled by that number. Players tend to not stretch out in order to get even higher vert numbers. So considering that it's said he has a 34-36 vert to begin with I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 40.

Miles Plumlee did that exact thing a few years back. His wingspan was almost 7-1, but his standing reach of just 8-9.5 seemed odd. Then he nailed a vert of 40 inches.

and what is Miles Plumlee doing today exactly? 

Max Vert leap is overrrated for big players.    You rarely use it to the max.

Being able to jump off the ground quickly from standstill is more useful OR long reach.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2016, 07:48:39 PM »

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There is a reason Mason Plumlee is better in every way vs his older brother.  Mason has a 9'0 reach and from what I have seen a little quick off the ground from standstill (these things do matter)

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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2016, 07:50:49 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Hold that thought because we're are interviewing him.

Don't be so fooled by that number. Players tend to not stretch out in order to get even higher vert numbers. So considering that it's said he has a 34-36 vert to begin with I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 40.

Miles Plumlee did that exact thing a few years back. His wingspan was almost 7-1, but his standing reach of just 8-9.5 seemed odd. Then he nailed a vert of 40 inches.

and what is Miles Plumlee doing today exactly? 

Max Vert leap is overrrated for big players.    You rarely use it to the max.

Being able to jump off the ground quickly from standstill is more useful OR long reach.

I don't think you're grasping what I'm saying. I'm giving you an example of why the numbers are likely skewed. I'm not comparing Poeltl to any of the 3 Plumlee's. Poeltl has a way higher ceiling than any of them.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2016, 07:57:14 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Hold that thought because we're are interviewing him.

Don't be so fooled by that number. Players tend to not stretch out in order to get even higher vert numbers. So considering that it's said he has a 34-36 vert to begin with I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 40.

Miles Plumlee did that exact thing a few years back. His wingspan was almost 7-1, but his standing reach of just 8-9.5 seemed odd. Then he nailed a vert of 40 inches.

and what is Miles Plumlee doing today exactly? 

Max Vert leap is overrrated for big players.    You rarely use it to the max.

Being able to jump off the ground quickly from standstill is more useful OR long reach.

I don't think you're grasping what I'm saying. I'm giving you an example of why the numbers are likely skewed. I'm not comparing Poeltl to any of the 3 Plumlee's. Poeltl has a way higher ceiling than any of them.

I doubt that.  Against Miles yes not Mason who is slowly becoming a fine frontcourt player.  Just ask the Blazers how important he was for them this season.

Mason is stronger and more explosive than Poeltl.   Better passer too. 

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« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2016, 08:04:35 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.

Poeltl prob should of skipped the "reach" measurement part lol.   worse than Zeller's  if that is possible

Hold that thought because we're are interviewing him.

Don't be so fooled by that number. Players tend to not stretch out in order to get even higher vert numbers. So considering that it's said he has a 34-36 vert to begin with I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 40.

Miles Plumlee did that exact thing a few years back. His wingspan was almost 7-1, but his standing reach of just 8-9.5 seemed odd. Then he nailed a vert of 40 inches.

and what is Miles Plumlee doing today exactly? 

Max Vert leap is overrrated for big players.    You rarely use it to the max.

Being able to jump off the ground quickly from standstill is more useful OR long reach.

I don't think you're grasping what I'm saying. I'm giving you an example of why the numbers are likely skewed. I'm not comparing Poeltl to any of the 3 Plumlee's. Poeltl has a way higher ceiling than any of them.

I doubt that.  Against Miles yes not Mason who is slowly becoming a fine frontcourt player.  Just ask the Blazers how important he was for them this season.

Mason is stronger and more explosive than Poeltl.   Better passer too.

Mason is decent, but Poeltl is sort of rich mans version of him. You can't run offense through Mason, not even at Duke. You can with Poeltl, who was doubled all the time at Utah and was a very willing and  effective passer from the post.

I got it, you don't like him. I think everyone is fully aware how you feel about him and Sabonis by now. That said, can you refrain from posting your thoughts about him in every single thread? You don't really add anything new to the discussion and only muddy the waters of the thread. Thanks.


Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2016, 08:15:37 PM »

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Should they add a new measurement to the combine called the double jump to see how fast a player can get off the ground and how high his second jump will be?
May look a little ridiculous, but would be effective.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2016, 08:27:08 PM »

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I would rather take an available big at 16 (Skal, Zimmerman, Stone), or take a flyer on Thon Maker if we like our first pick.  I think there will be some good bigs on the board at 16 and depending on individual draft workouts one of those guys could be a good fit.  One of them may even be available at 23.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2016, 09:00:15 PM »

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I would rather take an available big at 16 (Skal, Zimmerman, Stone), or take a flyer on Thon Maker if we like our first pick.  I think there will be some good bigs on the board at 16 and depending on individual draft workouts one of those guys could be a good fit.  One of them may even be available at 23.

totally agree.  Zimmerman had some nice stats .  7'3 , 9'1 reach.  Not amazing but above average.  And he can jump too

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2016, 09:01:13 PM »

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Should they add a new measurement to the combine called the double jump to see how fast a player can get off the ground and how high his second jump will be?
May look a little ridiculous, but would be effective.

I agree.  Not sure how it could be measured though


Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2016, 11:15:29 PM »

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AB on that contract + 16 + other picks seems like a steep price to pay for Poeltl, much as I like him. I'd probably trade 16+22+Mickey for him though.