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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2016, 02:38:37 PM »

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And why are you talking about poeltl and modern NBA fit? He can't shoot.  Sabonis can shoot better than him

Sabonis is a better overall defender also.  Shot blocking is the only thing poeltl can do better

Triboy, you're losing credibility.

I don't care?

For example All the length, skills can't save you, if in the end you can't play

Eddie you care alot about the "surface" vs "substance".  Look into it deeper is all I can advise you

Not compare Sabonis to collision for example (on the surface comparable , go deeper and Sabonis is the better prospect at the same age)

I know I have to start assessing who "is a good leaper after momentum". Can you explain that to me please? And kindly provide examples so I know what the hell you're talking about.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2016, 03:28:54 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.
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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2016, 04:24:50 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2016, 04:30:26 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

Poeltl was very productive to go along with his size and athleticism, though.

I have no idea if he'll be a franchise center or Cole Aldrich. His physical attributes won't hold him back, though. He's got NBA size and, seemingly, skills.


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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2016, 04:37:44 PM »

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Don't know much about Poeltl, but I do like his size.

Would Steven Adams be a good comp?
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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2016, 04:39:42 PM »

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Don't know much about Poeltl, but I do like his size.

Would Steven Adams be a good comp?

Yes, his style of play is similar. A bit mechanical, but not afraid to mix things up.

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2016, 04:43:21 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.
I feel like the standing reach numbers were suspect. How can a 7 footer with a 7'2.75 wingspan have the same standing reach as a 6'10 guy with a 7'0.25 wingspan? I don't understand how this can possible (if you do please explain it to me).

The only explanation I can think of is either an error recording them or Poeltl isn't reaching as high as he can so that when they measure his vertical against his standing reach the vert seems higher (I believe Connaughton did this last year)
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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2016, 04:46:56 PM »

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Don't know much about Poeltl, but I do like his size.

Would Steven Adams be a good comp?
Yeah I think they are pretty similar, I'd say Poeltl is quicker and a better post scorer but Adams is much stronger.
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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2016, 05:00:27 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

I think you should reconsider being critical of others opinions on a player's projection when after all you said Trey Burke was the next CP3, Aaron Gordon was Blake Griffin with higher IQ, and just last year went on and on about how horribly Myles Turner was and how Mickey was going to be the way better player. Remember all that?
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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2016, 05:06:02 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

Poeltl was very productive to go along with his size and athleticism, though.

I have no idea if he'll be a franchise center or Cole Aldrich. His physical attributes won't hold him back, though. He's got NBA size and, seemingly, skills.

Productivity and transferable skills is a different story

Poeltl does not have a go to move.   He is a poor jump shooter

If anything he is like a valenciunas. Difference is Val has a 7'6 wingspan (elite length) and strength to muscle some ugly baskets in

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2016, 05:12:45 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

I think you should reconsider being critical of others opinions on a player's projection when after all you said Trey Burke was the next CP3, Aaron Gordon was Blake Griffin with higher IQ, and just last year went on and on about how horribly Myles Turner was and how Mickey was going to be the way better player. Remember all that?

You are bending answers. Like usual. You post where I stated Burke is going to be cp3 part 2.  I merely stated possible potential .  and all Burke did was hit some ridiculous clutch buckets in the NCAA tourney.  And unlike James Young , he is progressing at least. Had several nice games last season.   He still has time eddie20.

And I still believe Turner won't be anything special like many stated here . We all saw how much he struggled in the playoffs. 2-11, 3-12 it was a brutal sight. Against more athletic , stronger big players like biyombo

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2016, 05:26:10 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.
I feel like the standing reach numbers were suspect. How can a 7 footer with a 7'2.75 wingspan have the same standing reach as a 6'10 guy with a 7'0.25 wingspan? I don't understand how this can possible (if you do please explain it to me).

The only explanation I can think of is either an error recording them or Poeltl isn't reaching as high as he can so that when they measure his vertical against his standing reach the vert seems higher (I believe Connaughton did this last year)

Shorter neck, smaller forehead, narrower shoulders.  Essentially if you are 7'-0" with a long neck and big head, your arms are closer to the round.  If you have a short neck and small head and are 7'-0", your arms are higher and can reach higher even if you wing span is shorter.

Also, the width of your shoulders makes a difference.  If you have say 7' wing span but broad shoulders, your arms aren't as long as the same wing span but with narrow shoulders.

So I am guessing that Poeltl has a long neck, big head, and broad shoulders.  Chriss has short neck, small head, and narrow shoulders (and probably overall frame)

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2016, 05:27:05 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.

Eddie20 really stated poeltl looks like a franchise calibre center?  Bc of his physical measurements/leap ability? 

I guess to him  Zhou Qi is a shoe in for the HOF

Bender,poeltl etc just mainly bc of good physical measurements. Oh brother

I think you should reconsider being critical of others opinions on a player's projection when after all you said Trey Burke was the next CP3, Aaron Gordon was Blake Griffin with higher IQ, and just last year went on and on about how horribly Myles Turner was and how Mickey was going to be the way better player. Remember all that?

And I still believe Turner won't be anything special like many stated here . We all saw how much he struggled in the playoffs. 2-11, 3-12 it was a brutal sight. Against more athletic , stronger big players like biyombo

I guess Colangelo didn't agree with you...

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Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2016, 05:46:28 PM »

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Poeltl is 7-1, with nearly a 7-3 wingspan, and is said to have a vert of 36-38 inches. Then you add his ability to rebound, defend, and pass and he looks like a franchise center.
Yeah, and he has the standing reach of 6'10 Marquese Chriss.
I feel like the standing reach numbers were suspect. How can a 7 footer with a 7'2.75 wingspan have the same standing reach as a 6'10 guy with a 7'0.25 wingspan? I don't understand how this can possible (if you do please explain it to me).

The only explanation I can think of is either an error recording them or Poeltl isn't reaching as high as he can so that when they measure his vertical against his standing reach the vert seems higher (I believe Connaughton did this last year)

Shorter neck, smaller forehead, narrower shoulders.  Essentially if you are 7'-0" with a long neck and big head, your arms are closer to the round.  If you have a short neck and small head and are 7'-0", your arms are higher and can reach higher even if you wing span is shorter.

Also, the width of your shoulders makes a difference.  If you have say 7' wing span but broad shoulders, your arms aren't as long as the same wing span but with narrow shoulders.

So I am guessing that Poeltl has a long neck, big head, and broad shoulders.  Chriss has short neck, small head, and narrow shoulders (and probably overall frame)

Hence closer to a Tyler Zeller

Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Re: Moving up to select Poeltl
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2016, 07:23:09 PM »

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Danny won't pick poeltl anyways

Something to be thankful for, I suppose.