Simmons is no Lebron. Ingram is no Durant. Then?

[walker834]

Simmons is an alpha dog I believe.  I don't think he has the personality of Lebron but he plays the game like he is the #1 guy on your team.  I don't like the Odom comparison for htat reason.  Odom was not an alpha dog.  Lebron might not be a good leader but he's still a leader. Odom was not an alpha dog at all though. He was 3rd fiddle at best in his career. Really had issues as an alpha dog and even had issues as a 3rd wheel.

Lebron causes a lot of strife as a leader but is still the #1 guy regardless.  I like my brad daugherty comparison because he was the #1/2 guy on those cleveland teams along with Mark Price, but more a quiet leader.   Simmons is better than that though.   He's a  number 1 guy in todays nba because he handles the ball so muchl. He's not magic or duncan but he's a #1 guy.  Like Wall or even better than that.  He's a bigger john wall. Could have issues in the NBA though. I don't think Simmons is 100 percent a sure thing.

Ingram I more see like a poor man's george gervin.  He's not Durant.  Gervin was a poor man's Durant.  Ingram is a poor man's Gervin.

[walker834]

Simmons would be the #1 guy here even over Isaiah ultimately. He'd be the #1 guy in Philly even over Okafor I think. He wouldnt be #1 in cleveland.  He wouldnt be #1 over Kevin Love.

That's all based on potential and him reaching his ceiling though which is pretty much the whole point of drafting him.

He's a better prospect than Kyrie. He's not a better prospect than Love or Lebron. Maybe as good as Kevin Love but that is close. The same in reverse for Okafor.

[Who]

I think Simmons is a much better passer than Odom. Much better vision and variety of passes.

I do question how much better his ball-handling is though. Especially in the half-court. That bothers me. Looks like he needs an awful lot of room to get around people off the dribble in the half-court and relies mostly on speed rather than craft.

[acieEarl]

If we some how end up with Simmons or Ingram we still go hard after Durant. Either way I doubt Durant comes here but you give Durant kitchen sink offer.

[walker834]

if we had Isaiah, Simmons and Love as a 3some that would work I think. Its not as good as kyrie, lebron and love but  they arent nearly as jerks either and we would have a better supporting cast. Maybe Love will bail on lebron if we get Simmons.

Simmons game is still so different than our style that it's a choice though in ways.  We have Turner.  We have all these other guys.  Simmons is still no sure thing here.

I dont want to be like Cleveland really that's the thing, but its interesting.

[showtime]

I think Simmons is the next big thing!!  A game changer!!  A superstar! Please let us finally have a little luck and end up with the #1 pick!!

[walker834]

he's a bigger faster lebron without the narcissistic control freak leadership qualities but plays the game similarly.  We'll steal Kevin Love.  Lebron will meet his doom best case.

[chambers]

Simmons is bigger than Lebron as a rookie.

Ingram is like a longer Paul pierce

[walker834]

Thats what I'm saying. Maybe we are looking at this wrong.  He is no lebron. He's better.  Ingram I dont see as better than Durant. Better than Paul George though maybe.  He's really thin right now though. Who knows. They are good prospects. We are going to get someone good.

Simmons I can see as being better than Lebron because he's bigger and without the attitude. Not as flashy.

[Roy H.]

he's a bigger faster lebron without the narcissistic control freak leadership qualities but plays the game similarly. 

Thats what I'm saying. Maybe we are looking at this wrong.  He is no lebron. He's better.

A bigger, faster Lebron

A slightly lesser Magic

A 6'10" Oscar Robertson.

Can somebody explain why there was so little tanking in the NBA this year?  Simmons is routinely projected to be a top five player of all-time, and perhaps the best ever.  Where was the race to the bottom this year?

I know that if I was in charge, I would have gone Full Hinkie for the next Lebron / Magic / Oscar hybrid.

[walker834]

Because people like hype? This draft is under the radar though I feel.  The wiggins/parker draft was overhyped. Bill Russell was underhyped.  I like this draft. 

lebron was super flashy and hit at the right time.  So did Jordan?  BIll Russell won how many in a row and is still not considered the best ever.  That's how it goes.

People thought Greg Oden was the second coming.  But durant was better. 

[Tr1boy]

Thats what I'm saying. Maybe we are looking at this wrong.  He is no lebron. He's better.  Ingram I dont see as better than Durant. Better than Paul George though maybe.  He's really thin right now though. Who knows. They are good prospects. We are going to get someone good.

Simmons I can see as being better than Lebron because he's bigger and without the attitude. Not as flashy.

Better than Lebron??

I think Lebron would get a no name team into the March madness tourney at least. Just take over from there

Like Durant did for his college team. He was basically a one man team and unstoppable (doubled teamed , constant attention)

This is another reason why I can't compare either to Lebron nor Durant (though a little unfair). Lebron and Durant thrive and excel in stressful situations.  You want to quiet the crowed ?  You need that bucket? Or scoring play? NP

I don't get that with Simmons /Ingram ( with what I have seen so far).  Similar to how it was with Wiggins and Parker (both kind of chocked in tourney runs 2 years ago).

[walker834]

I think he's his own player. He could end up like Derrick Coleman as far as we know right now when I say that. He doesn't have the skill level of those all time guys but he's big and fast. The nba is different now.

Logically speaking he plays similarly to  lebron except he's  bigger and doesnt seem to have the same attitude.

In college he seems like he is going through the motions a bit.  Lebron had more flair to him.  I was just watching highlights of both. Lebron was smaller but had more flair to his game.

Simmons has great explosion for a guy that size and can really handle the ball. He shouldnt be underestimated.

[walker834]

He's a legit alpha dog this class.  This is him vs Hield.  He has incredible explosion and finishng ability in a variety of ways whether its passing or off the dribble.  He can also just do a variety of things because of his size and athletic ability and feel for the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSFYVKH1rY

[Tr1boy]

He's a legit alpha dog this class.  This is him vs Hield.  He has incredible explosion and finishng ability in a variety of ways whether its passing or off the dribble.  He can also just do a variety of things because of his size and athletic ability and feel for the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSFYVKH1rY

Yes , but did he?  With 5 min to go ?

Why did LSU lose enough game to not make the tourney?

Did Simmons do his part or was he "out of the office" during these moments