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Re: Amir has been playing great, rather keep him than Sully.
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2016, 07:51:51 PM »

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12 mil is a lot to pay him each season, so don't be shocked if we renounce him.  Maybe we'd sign him to a long-term deal at more reasonable cash if we strike out on adding two max contract players.   He's been huge, though.  He does a decent job of filling one of our biggest needs.

I was actually thinking about this, but is it even possible to, kinda, restructure his deal? As in, decline the team option for Amir next year, but instead, sign him to a different contract? Or do we lose some rights we have on him from doing this?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Amir has been playing great, rather keep him than Sully.
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2016, 09:03:56 PM »

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12 mil is a lot to pay him each season, so don't be shocked if we renounce him.  Maybe we'd sign him to a long-term deal at more reasonable cash if we strike out on adding two max contract players.   He's been huge, though.  He does a decent job of filling one of our biggest needs.

I was actually thinking about this, but is it even possible to, kinda, restructure his deal? As in, decline the team option for Amir next year, but instead, sign him to a different contract? Or do we lose some rights we have on him from doing this?

yeah, we should be able to renounce then resign him so long as we're still under the cap.

Re: Amir has been playing great, rather keep him than Sully.
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2016, 10:56:02 PM »

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12 mil is a lot to pay him each season, so don't be shocked if we renounce him.  Maybe we'd sign him to a long-term deal at more reasonable cash if we strike out on adding two max contract players.   He's been huge, though.  He does a decent job of filling one of our biggest needs.

I was actually thinking about this, but is it even possible to, kinda, restructure his deal? As in, decline the team option for Amir next year, but instead, sign him to a different contract? Or do we lose some rights we have on him from doing this?

It's not an option, it's an unguaranteed year, so you have to waive him then resign him using cap space.  Agreeing to a new contract before waiving him would be cap circumvention.  If it looks obvious, the contract could be voided, he might not be allowed to sign with the Celtics at all, and the team might lose draft picks.
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Re: Amir has been playing great, rather keep him than Sully.
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2016, 11:02:28 PM »

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12 mil is a lot to pay him each season, so don't be shocked if we renounce him.  Maybe we'd sign him to a long-term deal at more reasonable cash if we strike out on adding two max contract players.   He's been huge, though.  He does a decent job of filling one of our biggest needs.

I was actually thinking about this, but is it even possible to, kinda, restructure his deal? As in, decline the team option for Amir next year, but instead, sign him to a different contract? Or do we lose some rights we have on him from doing this?

It's not an option, it's an unguaranteed year, so you have to waive him then resign him using cap space.  Agreeing to a new contract before waiving him would be cap circumvention.  If it looks obvious, the contract could be voided, he might not be allowed to sign with the Celtics at all, and the team might lose draft picks.

Huh, didn't know that. Interesting. But they could, like, communicate to Amir that they're gonna waive him just to sign a different contract, right?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Amir has been playing great, rather keep him than Sully.
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2016, 12:01:25 AM »

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12 mil is a lot to pay him each season, so don't be shocked if we renounce him.  Maybe we'd sign him to a long-term deal at more reasonable cash if we strike out on adding two max contract players.   He's been huge, though.  He does a decent job of filling one of our biggest needs.

I was actually thinking about this, but is it even possible to, kinda, restructure his deal? As in, decline the team option for Amir next year, but instead, sign him to a different contract? Or do we lose some rights we have on him from doing this?

It's not an option, it's an unguaranteed year, so you have to waive him then resign him using cap space.  Agreeing to a new contract before waiving him would be cap circumvention.  If it looks obvious, the contract could be voided, he might not be allowed to sign with the Celtics at all, and the team might lose draft picks.

Huh, didn't know that. Interesting. But they could, like, communicate to Amir that they're gonna waive him just to sign a different contract, right?

I think you guys are overthinking this. If we don't need the space, pick up the option. If we do; renounce him and try to bring him back with what we have left.

But simply trying to extend him at a lower rate for no reason is a bad idea. He has a lot of wear on him and I think it's a good thing to have him expiring on a 12 million dollar deal next season.