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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2016, 08:24:14 PM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D

It's a good point. Smart is the obvious replacement starter for mine. He brings defence and he seems to be getting over his shooting woes. I am against rushing Rozier or any of the other young players. Not sure if I said this before, but it may not help them or the team at this point in their development. Give them time in the playoffs for sure but the main rotation should be able to cover for most of AB's minutes. You will always miss a player like AB but this roster is meant to be deep. Here is the test.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2016, 08:53:07 PM »

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Awful loss. Avery is the man.

Rozier and Smart are good depth and I think they'll play well.  Hope Avery comes back 100%.

Gotta bully Teague with the bigger bodies.  Forget matching showed. 


Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2016, 09:37:41 PM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2016, 09:51:42 PM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Well I really only posted this satirically, and no one said he was better than Bradley, though I think you can certainly make the argument that he's better than Bradley in every area other than shooting.

But I think people are reading too much into this injury. He happens to play a position that we're deep at and similarly skilled, so we'll be alright. We might lose some shooting in the offense with Smart, but you add size, better team defense, and better playmaking and passing in Smart.
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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2016, 10:16:01 PM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Well I really only posted this satirically, and no one said he was better than Bradley, though I think you can certainly make the argument that he's better than Bradley in every area other than shooting.

But I think people are reading too much into this injury. He happens to play a position that we're deep at and similarly skilled, so we'll be alright. We might lose some shooting in the offense with Smart, but you add size, better team defense, and better playmaking and passing in Smart.
Smart plays 30 minutes so maybe he gets another 6 minutes. So I think it's more about having to throw an inexperienced guy like Rozier out there or stretching out our starters and tiring them out. That's the part I'm most worried about.

The other part is, we have a few basic plays we run when things aren't going well. The Dribble handoff with AB shooting from just outside the free throw line area is one of our money plays. Not having that play will hurt the team.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2016, 10:26:44 PM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Well I really only posted this satirically, and no one said he was better than Bradley, though I think you can certainly make the argument that he's better than Bradley in every area other than shooting.

But I think people are reading too much into this injury. He happens to play a position that we're deep at and similarly skilled, so we'll be alright. We might lose some shooting in the offense with Smart, but you add size, better team defense, and better playmaking and passing in Smart.
Smart plays 30 minutes so maybe he gets another 6 minutes. So I think it's more about having to throw an inexperienced guy like Rozier out there or stretching out our starters and tiring them out. That's the part I'm most worried about.

The other part is, we have a few basic plays we run when things aren't going well. The Dribble handoff with AB shooting from just outside the free throw line area is one of our money plays. Not having that play will hurt the team.

Crowder specifically will need to step up on the dribble hand-off play. Hopefully he will be over his shooting woes.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2016, 12:16:16 AM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Well I really only posted this satirically, and no one said he was better than Bradley, though I think you can certainly make the argument that he's better than Bradley in every area other than shooting.

But I think people are reading too much into this injury. He happens to play a position that we're deep at and similarly skilled, so we'll be alright. We might lose some shooting in the offense with Smart, but you add size, better team defense, and better playmaking and passing in Smart.
Smart plays 30 minutes so maybe he gets another 6 minutes. So I think it's more about having to throw an inexperienced guy like Rozier out there or stretching out our starters and tiring them out. That's the part I'm most worried about.

The other part is, we have a few basic plays we run when things aren't going well. The Dribble handoff with AB shooting from just outside the free throw line area is one of our money plays. Not having that play will hurt the team.

This...

There is a very large potential right now for all the Avery Bradley haters to be silenced, because unless somebody else steps up in a HUGE way, we are about to learn first hand just how important he is to this team.

People tend to underestimate his impact, but Bradley is:

1) Our best on-ball perimeter defender
2) Our second or third best shot creator (after Thomas and maybe Turner)
3) Our second or third best outside shooter (after Olynyk and Thomas)

You take all of that away and it hurts..a lot. 

But I'm hoping and praying that somebody can step up and help offset that loss.  Smart was amazing in game 1, and we are going to need guys to step up like that throughout this series if we're going to have a chance.  It doesn't necessarily have to be the same guy each game - it could be Smart one night, Crowder another night, Turner another night, Olynyk another night, Amir another night, etc.  But every single night we're going to need somebody to step it up.

Bradley has been our warrior not only in the last game, but over the last 3 or 4 games while we've been struggling.  Thomas hasn't been as good as usually, but he's still played hard and he's still put points on the board.

Somebody needs to help Thomas out, and the one man who is going to have a LOT more weight on his shoulders at this point is, to me, Crowder.  Crowder has played poorly since his return from injury.  The defence hasn't been up to his usual standard, nor has the hustle/effort.  Hsi shot selection has also gone downhill.  Crowder is such a handful when he is on his game, and we're going to need him at his best. 

Smart is going to need to do his best to replace Bradley's defence and shooting too - I won't be angry at him if he struggles with his shot, because that's a natural weakness for him.  But if he can find his shot and become an offensive threat in this series it'll be huge.

Turner has to be Turner.  He has to be aggressive attacking the paint, and he has to make himself a factor in the series.  He's got to take some pressure off IT as the ball handler and offensive creator, and I'm sure he'll do that.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2016, 12:18:19 AM »

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Nor is the injury the end of the world, necessarily. Bradley's shot selection often leaves something to be desired, and I suspect Teague would laugh himself sick at the lock-down moniker.

Next man up, or you deserve what happens to you.

There is nothing wrong with Bradley's shot selection.  In fact he has arguably the best shot selection of any 'scorer' on this team.  Bradley only takes shots he knows he can make, and I an perfectly fine with that.

I wish I could say the same for Sully and Crowder.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2016, 02:39:54 AM »

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Here's a positive take on this whole situation:

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/721768000836210688

"When Avery Bradley didn't play against the Hawks on Nov. 13, Marcus Smart started and Celtics won, 106-93. Only W against ATL this season."  ;D
i love smart but he's not better than AB.

IT is going to have to score 30 plus for us.

Well I really only posted this satirically, and no one said he was better than Bradley, though I think you can certainly make the argument that he's better than Bradley in every area other than shooting.

But I think people are reading too much into this injury. He happens to play a position that we're deep at and similarly skilled, so we'll be alright. We might lose some shooting in the offense with Smart, but you add size, better team defense, and better playmaking and passing in Smart.
Smart plays 30 minutes so maybe he gets another 6 minutes. So I think it's more about having to throw an inexperienced guy like Rozier out there or stretching out our starters and tiring them out. That's the part I'm most worried about.

The other part is, we have a few basic plays we run when things aren't going well. The Dribble handoff with AB shooting from just outside the free throw line area is one of our money plays. Not having that play will hurt the team.

This...

There is a very large potential right now for all the Avery Bradley haters to be silenced, because unless somebody else steps up in a HUGE way, we are about to learn first hand just how important he is to this team.

People tend to underestimate his impact, but Bradley is:

1) Our best on-ball perimeter defender
2) Our second or third best shot creator (after Thomas and maybe Turner)
3) Our second or third best outside shooter (after Olynyk and Thomas)

You take all of that away and it hurts..a lot. 

But I'm hoping and praying that somebody can step up and help offset that loss.  Smart was amazing in game 1, and we are going to need guys to step up like that throughout this series if we're going to have a chance.  It doesn't necessarily have to be the same guy each game - it could be Smart one night, Crowder another night, Turner another night, Olynyk another night, Amir another night, etc.  But every single night we're going to need somebody to step it up.

Bradley has been our warrior not only in the last game, but over the last 3 or 4 games while we've been struggling.  Thomas hasn't been as good as usually, but he's still played hard and he's still put points on the board.

Somebody needs to help Thomas out, and the one man who is going to have a LOT more weight on his shoulders at this point is, to me, Crowder.  Crowder has played poorly since his return from injury.  The defence hasn't been up to his usual standard, nor has the hustle/effort.  Hsi shot selection has also gone downhill.  Crowder is such a handful when he is on his game, and we're going to need him at his best. 

Smart is going to need to do his best to replace Bradley's defence and shooting too - I won't be angry at him if he struggles with his shot, because that's a natural weakness for him.  But if he can find his shot and become an offensive threat in this series it'll be huge.

Turner has to be Turner.  He has to be aggressive attacking the paint, and he has to make himself a factor in the series.  He's got to take some pressure off IT as the ball handler and offensive creator, and I'm sure he'll do that.
Nice run down. I completely agree about Crowder. He's been struggling since coming back from his injury. He went from a very reliable scorer to someone that makes me cringe when he shoots. Hopefully he finds that magic he had earlier in the season that had people talking about him as a guy just outside the all star group.

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #84 on: April 18, 2016, 09:37:04 AM »

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Nor is the injury the end of the world, necessarily. Bradley's shot selection often leaves something to be desired, and I suspect Teague would laugh himself sick at the lock-down moniker.

Next man up, or you deserve what happens to you.

There is nothing wrong with Bradley's shot selection.  In fact he has arguably the best shot selection of any 'scorer' on this team.  Bradley only takes shots he knows he can make, and I an perfectly fine with that.

I wish I could say the same for Sully and Crowder.
If He would have taken Turner's 3 attempt we win the game. AB will be missed. It is time for Smart to shine if he wants to be a starter in this league. It will also increase his trade value if we decide to move him.
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Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #85 on: April 18, 2016, 10:30:18 AM »

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Ironic but Bradely out just may increase our chance to win
As i remember our only win against Hawks is when AB wasn't playing

Re: What are the implications of losing Avery Bradley?
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2016, 11:06:41 PM »

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The implications are that this team isn't nearly as good without Avery as it is with.

Further implications indicate Avery currently is absolutely our second best guard and a harder worker than just about anybody on the team, and one of our most balanced players.

Further implications are that the "trade Avery" crowd is being proven as wrong as could possibly be, unless the guard coming back is Jimmy Butler.

Implications are that Avery's contract is one of the best in the league.

Implied right now is that if Avery had been out all year we either miss the playoffs or are a 8 seed.