CB mock draft. Pick 4th to 35th.

[ThePoeticWolf]

Using Draft Express as a guideline use our picks right now  we have the 4th,12th, 23th, 31st and 35th picks, also later seconds but let's focus on these five picks.


4th - Buddy Hield - Gives us the shooting the Celtics are missing.  Would be able to make Bradley available to trade not this year but maybe next year, unless we just keep him as our 6th man.     

12th - Skal Labissiere - I think he'd fall to us at 12 and I'd be willing to take a chance on him. 

Trading the 23th and 31st and James Young to the Denver Nuggets at 17. 

17th - Denzel Valentine - He can takes over the Turner role if we don't resign him, makes him expendable. 

35th - A.J. Hammon - Takes over the minutes where Zeller would be on the Roster has the talent to turn into something if Stevens can get his motor running full time. 


Free Agency We Hit Big
Al Horford and Kevin Durant

Resign
Jared Sullinger - 3 year deal somewhere between 8-9 million give us a starting power forward.

Starting Five Opening Night
Center - Horford
Power Forward - Sullinger
Small Forward - Durant
Shooting Guard - Bradley
Point Guard - Thomas

Second Unit
Center - Olynyk 
Power Forward - Mickey
Small Forward - Crowder
Shooting Guard - Hield
Point Guard - Smart

Bench     
Center/Power Forward - Labissiere
Shoot Guard/Small Forward - Valentine
Point Guard - Rozier
Shooting Guard - Hunter
Center - Hammond

You can have 15 players under contract I believe is the rule.  I know you can dress up to 13.  So at least two of them would be in the d-league at a time. 

[drogbagarnett]

Here is mine :


#4 - Buddy Hield

#12 -Marquese Chriss

#23 - Petr Cornelie - Draft and Stash

#31 - AJ Hammons - Maine?

#35 - Caris Levert - Maine


Picks 50, 52, 58 All Stash Skill bigs : Andrey Desyatnikov 7'3, Zhou QI 7'2, Jonathan Jeanne 7'2.
We would need at least one of those 3 bigs to pan out and provide a solid bench role for us.

Here is my team next year with Horford :

Thomas Smart Rozier
Bradley Hield Hunter
Crowder Turner Chriss
Olynyk Jerebko Mickey
Horford Zeller Hammons

And here my team if we get unlucky at the draft and get pick #5 or worst :

Trade it along Smart, young and Amir plus some 2nd rounders for Butler

Thomas Rozier Levert
Butler Bradley Hunter
Crowder Turner Chriss
Olynyk Jerebko Mickey
Horford Hammons Zeller

What do you guys think...?

[Evantime34]

This is based on who is available at the pick o draft express
4. Murray
12. Davis
23. Best available draft and stash
31. Best available draft and stash
35. Best available draft and stash
50. Best available draft and stash
52. Best available draft and stash
58. Best available draft and stash

I'd prefer not to have more than 2 or 3 rookies on the roster next year. If possible, I'd like to deal Young, 23 and any pick after that to move up.

My priorities for the draft are shooting, rebounding, shot blocking and athleticism.

[pearljammer10]

At four I'll take Buddy Hield. Ideally I'd move back a spot of two and take Hield, but I'm fine drafting him at four.

Sabonis
Brice Johnson
Denzel Valentine
Buddy Hield
Terry Rozier

 Throw in Mickey and that's one hell of a B Team.

You might win the NCAAs with that team, but NBA, get real.   Some nice parts but they would get  ate alive until they get some years under their belt, even then it would be dicey.

Sure one heck of a B team but I'm more interested in making improvements to our A team.

[PhoSita]

At four I'll take Buddy Hield. Ideally I'd move back a spot of two and take Hield, but I'm fine drafting him at four.

Sabonis
Brice Johnson
Denzel Valentine
Buddy Hield
Terry Rozier

 Throw in Mickey and that's one hell of a B Team.

You might win the NCAAs with that team, but NBA, get real.   Some nice parts but they would get  ate alive until they get some years under their belt, even then it would be dicey.

Sure one heck of a B team but I'm more interested in making improvements to our A team.

Well, the draft isn't going to be the place to do that.

My guess is that unless the Celts get a top 2-3 pick in this draft, they won't be able to make a major upgrade happen via trade on draft day, either.

Just hard to see anybody trading an All-Star caliber talent for any pick (or picks) in this draft outside the top 2 or 3.  But NBA teams have inscrutable priorities when it comes to draft trades sometimes.

[tomrod]

Shot and simple.

Hield: Gives us another scorer, a guy you can give the ball when Thomas alone won't cut it. Another Shooter.

Brice Johnson: Pasion for the game, lenght, athleticism.

Sabonis: Sully's replacement?

Valentine: Another playmaker. Can play a little 3.

Layman: A wing that can spell Crowder for a few minutes.

We'd still need a center, but I'm guessing an old time center is not a top priority in Stevens system. Maybe Horford is the guy.

Core:

Thomas     Smart       Rozier
Bradley     Hield         Hunter
Crowder    Valentine   Layman
Sully        Mickey       B. Johnson
Horford     Olynyk     


I'm guessing this doesnt makes us better though, since your basically replacing current vets with rookies that do the same. Hield's place is already Avery's.

I'd prefer a trade, or maybe we go with Poeltl or Ellenson that are more immediate needs. I'm all over the place with this draft.

I see three options:

1. Go big and mantain status quo. Ellenson or Poetl won't require major changes.

2. Go Hield or Murray and make every guard expendable.

3. Trades.

[max215]

4. Buddy Hield- I loved him before his crazy tournament run, and he's been nothing short of fantastic.
12. Luwawu or Labissierre- Upside.

Trade the other picks for high upside future picks.

[Moranis]

4 - Jaylen Brown
12 - Deyonta Davis
23 - Diamond Stone
31 - Dejounte Murray (BTW, nbadraft.net has him going 10th)
35 - Cheik Diallo
50 - Andrey Desyatnikov (keep in Europe)
58 - Rade Zagorac (keep in Europe)

I'd try to package 31 and 35 to move up into the upper 20's to get one of the Euro's for draft and stash purposes (Cordinier, Hernangomez, Cornelie).  Might also look at moving back from 4 and/or up from 12 and getting Poeltl around 8 (either by dropping back or moving up).  I really like Poeltl in that 8 spot, think that is great value.

nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com have vastly different mock drafts at this point.  Tells me the draft isn't very good on the whole, so trying to consolidate as many picks as possible makes sense and if keeping the picks, I think the goal should be to take flyers on high risk/high reward players or draft and stash players.

[showtime]

Using Draft Express as a guideline use our picks right now  we have the 4th,12th, 23th, 31st and 35th picks, also later seconds but let's focus on these five picks.


4th - Buddy Hield - Gives us the shooting the Celtics are missing.  Would be able to make Bradley available to trade not this year but maybe next year, unless we just keep him as our 6th man.     

12th - Skal Labissiere - I think he'd fall to us at 12 and I'd be willing to take a chance on him. 

Trading the 23th and 31st and James Young to the Denver Nuggets at 17. 

17th - Denzel Valentine - He can takes over the Turner role if we don't resign him, makes him expendable. 

35th - A.J. Hammon - Takes over the minutes where Zeller would be on the Roster has the talent to turn into something if Stevens can get his motor running full time. 


Free Agency We Hit Big
Al Horford and Kevin Durant

Resign
Jared Sullinger - 3 year deal somewhere between 8-9 million give us a starting power forward.

Starting Five Opening Night
Center - Horford
Power Forward - Sullinger
Small Forward - Durant
Shooting Guard - Bradley
Point Guard - Thomas

Second Unit
Center - Olynyk 
Power Forward - Mickey
Small Forward - Crowder
Shooting Guard - Hield
Point Guard - Smart

Bench     
Center/Power Forward - Labissiere
Shoot Guard/Small Forward - Valentine
Point Guard - Rozier
Shooting Guard - Hunter
Center - Hammond

You can have 15 players under contract I believe is the rule.  I know you can dress up to 13.  So at least two of them would be in the d-league at a time.

  If we could get Hield and Skal, I would be extremely happy!!

[KG Living Legend]

 NBA draft. Net is garbage FYI

[TheTruth]

Moranis,

Your picks were the best. Jaylen Brown's stock may dip but he's the closest player, after the first three picks, to potentially being a future all star.

Deyonta Davis is a guy who would had been a top 7-8 pick if he got more minutes to work on his game.

Diamond Stone is a no brainer at pick 23.

Nice picks.

[Evantime34]

4 - Jaylen Brown
12 - Deyonta Davis
23 - Diamond Stone
31 - Dejounte Murray (BTW, nbadraft.net has him going 10th)
35 - Cheik Diallo
50 - Andrey Desyatnikov (keep in Europe)
58 - Rade Zagorac (keep in Europe)

I'd try to package 31 and 35 to move up into the upper 20's to get one of the Euro's for draft and stash purposes (Cordinier, Hernangomez, Cornelie).  Might also look at moving back from 4 and/or up from 12 and getting Poeltl around 8 (either by dropping back or moving up).  I really like Poeltl in that 8 spot, think that is great value.

nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com have vastly different mock drafts at this point.  Tells me the draft isn't very good on the whole, so trying to consolidate as many picks as possible makes sense and if keeping the picks, I think the goal should be to take flyers on high risk/high reward players or draft and stash players.

I like who you selected and completely agree with the idea of targeting a foreign player via trade because we certainly can't have 5 rookies on the team.

I don't think that comparing draft.net and draftexpress is indicative of anything except that nbadraft.net is not great at predicting things. The 3 best mocks are done by draftexpress, CBS' Sam Veccinie and ESPN's Chad Ford.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/26/grading-the-mock-2015-nba-drafts/

[Boris Badenov]

Not to be a downer but with the 4th lottery slot it makes more sense to assume we have the 5th pick. We'd have a 35% chance of getting that pick but only a 10% chance at pick 4.

In fact, with the quirks of the lottery system at the 4th lottery slot the #4 pick is the LEAST likely outcome in the top 6. We are more likely to end up at 1, 2, 3, 5 or 6 than 4th.

[Tr1boy]

Not to be a downer but with the 4th lottery slot it makes more sense to assume we have the 5th pick. We'd have a 35% chance of getting that pick but only a 10% chance at pick 4.

In fact, with the quirks of the lottery system at the 4th lottery slot the #4 pick is the LEAST likely outcome in the top 6. We are more likely to end up at 1, 2, 3, 5 or 6 than 4th.

can you explain? Nets have the 4th worst record in the league right now.

[max215]

Not to be a downer but with the 4th lottery slot it makes more sense to assume we have the 5th pick. We'd have a 35% chance of getting that pick but only a 10% chance at pick 4.

In fact, with the quirks of the lottery system at the 4th lottery slot the #4 pick is the LEAST likely outcome in the top 6. We are more likely to end up at 1, 2, 3, 5 or 6 than 4th.

can you explain? Nets have the 4th worst record in the league right now.

Meaning they have the fourth best odds in the lottery, which is conducted for picks 1-3. The team with the 4th best odds only has a 9.9% chance at the 4th pick, but an 11.9% chance at the 1st pick, 12.6% at the 2nd, and 13.3% at the 3rd. The most likely outcome (35.1%) is that the pick winds up 5th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery