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Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2016, 07:18:44 PM »

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Got car warmed up and ready .......Sullys and Youngs bags are packed

Let's go get Boogie Cousins

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2016, 07:29:35 PM »

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Lets trade for WCS instead

Nooooooo

That's like say n let's buy that Fiat in the show room and not the Ferrari .....LOL......think BIG!

No,way settle for WCS.......Cousins is top three BIG in the NBA .

We want him.....WE NEED ......to have d

The Boogie Man in Green

Trade any pick and body BUT Smart and Crowder ......

Boogie , Smart , Crowder
, Mickey , and IT plus CBS is a good start to,a banner

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2016, 07:33:40 PM »

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Zero chance. Not because he's not uber talented or the C's don't have enough assets. The guy is a certifiable loser. He pouts and he quits on his team. It's not a good sign when people in Sacramento are publicly saying he needs to go. Don't give me the change of scenery thing either. The guy just doesn't have it between his ears. He's the anti-everything of what Ainge/Stevens have tried to build the past couple of years. He's selfish, me first attitude, and a poor character person (see Rondo). I wouldn't gut the team to get this guy.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2016, 07:35:46 PM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2016, 07:37:18 PM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Kevin Garnett was a league MVP and was never considered a quitter.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2016, 08:21:45 PM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Kevin Garnett was a league MVP and was never considered a quitter.

Great post.

If Demarcus were winning in spite of his teammates, as KG did for many years, this would be a very different discussion.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2016, 08:24:46 PM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Kevin Garnett is one of the greatest power forwards of all time. He arguably has one the most infectious positive/winning attitudes in the history of sports, and single handedly changed the culture of this Celtics franchise with his hard work and attitude.

Kevin Garnett successfully fuels his emotions into playing hard and trying his hardest to win every night. Kevin Garnett doesn't/didn't take plays off and cherished every second he was out on the floor.

DeMarcus Cousins is an embarrassment to guys like KG who appreciate every moment they have the chance to play in the NBA.

DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2016, 08:25:44 PM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Kevin Garnett is one of the greatest power forwards of all time. He arguably has one the most infectious positive/winning attitudes in the history of sports, and single handedly changed the culture of this Celtics franchise with his hard work and attitude.

Kevin Garnett successfully fuels his emotions into playing hard and trying his hardest to win every night. Kevin Garnett doesn't/didn't take plays off and cherished every second he was out on the floor.

DeMarcus Cousins is an embarrassment to guys like KG who appreciate every moment they have the chance to play in the NBA.

DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.

TP

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2016, 08:39:11 PM »

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DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.

Reminds me of the great Big Baby quote when someone asked him if he was like KG.  Baby says, KG is the Big Ticket, I am just the Ticket Stub.

Now clearly Cousins is much better than Glen (BB) Davis, make no mistake.

For the record, I think DA would give Cousins a try.  I think the environment would be enough different in Boston that Cousins would be fine here.  I don't think it is likely.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2016, 12:07:54 AM »

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Huge risk, huge reward. I maintain that Cousins has the most potential of any player in the entire league. His potential is higher than Durant, Anthony Davis, or even Towns. His combination of size, coordination, strength and now a 3 point shot basically removes the ceiling from what his game could be with the right attitude and work ethic.

But he's 25. He's in his 6th NBA season. He knows what people think about him and he still acts the way he does. He still can't get along with a coach. It's hard to imagine him changing much if he hasn't by now.

I understand those who think that moving him to a functional organization with a sense of identity and purpose could give him a new outlook and a second chance but that's still a risk.

I agree about his potential, disagree about him being unable to get along with a coach.  He got along fine with the last one.  He just happens to have a coach right now who is an arrogant, back-stabbing moron.  I can't blame him for not being able to get along with Karl.
It's not just Karl, though. He got along with Mike Malone pretty well but that even took time. And prior to Malone he had a strong of coaches he couldn't get along with.

How about a 3-team deal that sends Cousins to NY and Porzingis to Boston?

There is no way I take Porzingis over Cousins - not in a million years.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2016, 12:15:26 AM »

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Don't Cousins and Durant hate each other?
I think getting Cousins here would out a lot of players off coming here as free agents tbh.
Our old friend Kevin Garnett is considered one of the biggest jerks in the nba but him being on a team makes it a winner

Kevin Garnett was a league MVP and was never considered a quitter.

Not true.

Sczerbiak publically criticised KG for not being a good leader, for being too passive, and for not having the balls to take big shots.

Until KG came to Boston and won a title, he was constantly criticised for not being able to carry his teams far enough. 

He was also constantly criticised for his personality and attitude.

It wasn't until he came to Boston and won a title that suddenly everybody's opinion of him changed and he went from being "that guy who can't win / lead" to being "that guy who is a winner / leader". 

Even when he came to Boston, Doc was constantly trying to push him to be more aggressive on offense and to take more shots rather than always deferring to teammates.

As the saying goes, winning changes everything in this league.

IT when he was in Sacramento was looked at as a black hole, a chucker and a borderline team cancer.  Two years on a winning Boston team (with a good coach) and IT is voted an All-Star and is getting respect around the league.

If Cousins was traded to Boston and we made the finals next year (or won a title) then everybody's opinion of him would change and he would go from "crybaby loser" to "passionate winner". 

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2016, 12:18:05 AM »

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Kevin Garnett is one of the greatest power forwards of all time. He arguably has one the most infectious positive/winning attitudes in the history of sports, and single handedly changed the culture of this Celtics franchise with his hard work and attitude.

Kevin Garnett successfully fuels his emotions into playing hard and trying his hardest to win every night. Kevin Garnett doesn't/didn't take plays off and cherished every second he was out on the floor.

DeMarcus Cousins is an embarrassment to guys like KG who appreciate every moment they have the chance to play in the NBA.

DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.

Lets see if KG would have been so well behaved if he had to deal with the Kings organisation in it's current state...

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2016, 12:31:40 AM »

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Kevin Garnett is one of the greatest power forwards of all time. He arguably has one the most infectious positive/winning attitudes in the history of sports, and single handedly changed the culture of this Celtics franchise with his hard work and attitude.

Kevin Garnett successfully fuels his emotions into playing hard and trying his hardest to win every night. Kevin Garnett doesn't/didn't take plays off and cherished every second he was out on the floor.

DeMarcus Cousins is an embarrassment to guys like KG who appreciate every moment they have the chance to play in the NBA.

DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.

Lets see if KG would have been so well behaved if he had to deal with the Kings organisation in it's current state...

KG went through a miserable stretch at Minny.
The two men are completely different because KG still played his heart out, even when they sucked. Cousins has never been any different from the moment he walked out onto the college parquet.
He was a whiney, emotional, pouting, scolding brat at Kentucky, and he's the same brat at Sacto.

To compare the attitudes of the two is just insulting to Kevin Garnett.
It's fine to wanna back up Cousins and say he's in the wrong situation/needs a change of scenery but you can never compare Cousins to KG.

Cousins is a mental midget. KG is one of the mentally strongest players to ever play the game.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2016, 12:37:55 AM »

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Cousins attitude is nothing like Garnett's arttitude. They're both incredibly talented and they scowl. Other than that there are no other similarities.


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Re: Voisin of Sacramento Bee: Cousins must be traded
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2016, 01:51:57 AM »

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Kevin Garnett is one of the greatest power forwards of all time. He arguably has one the most infectious positive/winning attitudes in the history of sports, and single handedly changed the culture of this Celtics franchise with his hard work and attitude.

Kevin Garnett successfully fuels his emotions into playing hard and trying his hardest to win every night. Kevin Garnett doesn't/didn't take plays off and cherished every second he was out on the floor.

DeMarcus Cousins is an embarrassment to guys like KG who appreciate every moment they have the chance to play in the NBA.

DMC is Kevin Garnett's ball boy.

Lets see if KG would have been so well behaved if he had to deal with the Kings organisation in it's current state...

KG went through a miserable stretch at Minny.
The two men are completely different because KG still played his heart out, even when they sucked. Cousins has never been any different from the moment he walked out onto the college parquet.
He was a whiney, emotional, pouting, scolding brat at Kentucky, and he's the same brat at Sacto.

To compare the attitudes of the two is just insulting to Kevin Garnett.
It's fine to wanna back up Cousins and say he's in the wrong situation/needs a change of scenery but you can never compare Cousins to KG.

Cousins is a mental midget. KG is one of the mentally strongest players to ever play the game.

KG made the playoffs every single year from 1996/97 to 2003/04 with a great coach in Flip Saunders.

It wasn't until the 2004/05 season (when Flip was replaced by Kevin McHale) that they missed the playoffs, and they finished that season with a .537 win record.

KG suffered only three seasons with a losing record, and in two of those seasons they were still reasonably competitive (0.402, 0.390) so only one true stinker of a season (0.268).

It's not so hard to swallow three bad seasons when you have just spent your first 9 years in the league playing on a competitive and well coached teams.

Cousins hasn't had a single winning season since he's been in the league, nor has he played for really a single good coach.  That's on top of the organisation being an absolute farce.

Comparing what the two players went through is a joke.

KG was happy to sacrifice his game when he came to Boston because he had had so much success already in Minnesota, and was ready to sacrifice for a title. 

The guys had even been on record saying that they never would have worked together if they tried to join earlier in their careers, when their egos were still huge.

Again, it's very different going through 8-9 years of winning and then having to live through 3 years of losing, then going to a new team and going through anther 4-5 years of winning...versus having nothing but losing from the day you enter the league, and playing for nothing but bad coaches on poorly managed teams.

Absolutely no comparison.