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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2016, 12:31:21 PM »

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Quote from: nickagneta on March 07, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
Poeltl is the only guy in this draft that I hope the Celtics end up with other than Simmons. I don't see Poeltl being a multi-time All-Star at the next level but he will be a very good defensive center and a rebounder that will average over 9 rebounds a game. He will be an above average to borderline All-Star talent in this league for a decade barring injuries.

Pre-injuries Bogut is who comes to mind as a comparison (2008-2011).  Would be quite pleased to end up with a guy like that.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2016, 12:32:21 PM »

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Quote from: Yoki_IsTheName on March 07, 2016, 11:00:10 AM

Also. Is it Jakob (jae-KOB), or Jakob (yah-KOB)?

He's Austrian, so my guess is the latter.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2016, 12:37:48 PM »

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Quote from: PhoSita on March 07, 2016, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: nickagneta on March 07, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
Poeltl is the only guy in this draft that I hope the Celtics end up with other than Simmons. I don't see Poeltl being a multi-time All-Star at the next level but he will be a very good defensive center and a rebounder that will average over 9 rebounds a game. He will be an above average to borderline All-Star talent in this league for a decade barring injuries.

Pre-injuries Bogut is who comes to mind as a comparison (2008-2011).  Would be quite pleased to end up with a guy like that.
I could see that. Good comparison. And after his first couple years, Bogut in Milwaukee, that year before he injured himself, started to become a beast. I would take a guy like that and have him be my center for the next 9 years without hesitation.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2016, 01:19:06 PM »

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Quote from: PhoSita on March 07, 2016, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: nickagneta on March 07, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
Poeltl is the only guy in this draft that I hope the Celtics end up with other than Simmons. I don't see Poeltl being a multi-time All-Star at the next level but he will be a very good defensive center and a rebounder that will average over 9 rebounds a game. He will be an above average to borderline All-Star talent in this league for a decade barring injuries.

Pre-injuries Bogut is who comes to mind as a comparison (2008-2011).  Would be quite pleased to end up with a guy like that.

You mean a borderline All-NBA Third teamer?

Where do I sign up? I'd love to have a Center like that for our team.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2016, 01:33:20 PM »

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I'm not really going to do much looking at draft prospects until after the Celtics season is over, but I am amused that NBAdraft.net comparisons are:
Poeltl - Andrew Bogut
Ellenson - Brian Scalabrine/Brian Cardinal

It almost feels like choosing between Cauley-Stein and Kaminsky.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 01:46:54 PM »

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i just noticed that on draftexpress, poeltl is now at #6 and ellenson at #8. i guess draftexpress read this thread.  ;D

i would not mind if ainge drafted poeltl. he is supposedly a a great defender. he offense is limited, but with CBS who knows what can happen? sully now has a pretty reliable mid-range 2 point shot.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2016, 02:43:54 PM »

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I just watched Poeltl's Draft Express video and was pretty impressed.  He's more mobile than you might think and has a nice touch finishing at the rim.  His mobility makes him a good pick and roll defender, looks comfortable defending at the perimeter, which I think is a must in today's NBA.  Good size at 7'0, but only average wingspan for that size.

Has improved his free throw shooting from 43% last year to 68% this year, so maybe there's potential for him as mid range shooter.

 I think he'd be a good pick at 5-6, but we're getting a 1 or 2, so it probably doesn't matter.  ;)
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2016, 02:47:03 PM »

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you can't

Ellenson > Poeltl
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2016, 04:43:18 PM »

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Quote from: triboy16f on March 07, 2016, 02:47:03 PM
you can't

Ellenson > Poeltl

Well there you have it.  Debate over.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2016, 04:52:36 PM »

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Quote from: LooseCannon on March 07, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
I'm not really going to do much looking at draft prospects until after the Celtics season is over, but I am amused that NBAdraft.net comparisons are:
Poeltl - Andrew Bogut
Ellenson - Brian Scalabrine/Brian Cardinal

It almost feels like choosing between Cauley-Stein and Kaminsky.

 ;D

Poeltl's at least as likely to become Omer Asik or Kosta Koufos, but the Bogut comparison is nice to ponder.  :)
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2016, 04:53:35 PM »

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Quote from: LooseCannon on March 07, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
I'm not really going to do much looking at draft prospects until after the Celtics season is over, but I am amused that NBAdraft.net comparisons are:
Poeltl - Andrew Bogut
Ellenson - Brian Scalabrine/Brian Cardinal

It almost feels like choosing between Cauley-Stein and Kaminsky.



 The Ellenson comparisons to Scal is disgusting.

 Ellenson is the closest thing I've ever seen to Dirk Diggler. What if Dirk didn't shoot nearly as well but still had great form.

 Ellenson also handles it much better and is a better shot blockers and rebounder. Again it's the jumpshot that's not there yet. If the jumper starts falling more look out.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2016, 04:56:51 PM »

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Ellenson reminds me of Linas Kleiza. Ellenson is taller though.
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2016, 05:01:54 PM »

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Ellenson is like a Kelly O / Sully hybrid. 
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2016, 05:21:35 PM »

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 Gonna have to explain yourself Quentz, Reminds u of Sully Why?
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Re: How can you Justify Poeltl over Ellenson
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2016, 05:27:40 PM »

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Quote from: Who on March 07, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Ellenson reminds me of Linas Kleiza. Ellenson is taller though.

Wow, he does look and play a lot like Kleiza, great comp Who. The height advantage is significant though and Ellenson possess more leadership qualities than Kleiza who was a quiet, often standoffish Euro from what I remember. Kleiza was a nice piece on that Denver team as Carmelo's backup.
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