Danny Ainge on Toucher and Rich (Potential "Big Trade" Discussed)

[manl_lui]

That was a good listen but I feel Toucher and Rich like Felger and Mazz are usually Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.s when being interviewed or interviewing about basketball. Some moments they were constantly stopping Danny

But the good points Danny made I really liked

1. Having 8 draft picks in the draft isn't necessary a bad thing because he has every section of the draft covered which will allow them to evaluate any players they want, and they aren't just numbers at that point, they are names
-One lotto pick
-One teen
-One twenties

The 2nd round is pretty much covered

2. Does not see himself using all 3 Nets pick

3. Excellent working relationship with Brad Stevens
3a. In game, Brad is coach and Danny acts like an assistant
3b. In business, Danny is coach and Brad is assistant
I like this point in particular because it shows they talk and work together and will not get in the way of each other doing their job

[Big333223]

I was thinking Butler seems more likely to be off the table than Paul George but I just looked it up and Paul George is 25 while Jimmy Butler is 26. I had no idea Butler was actually older than George. Weird.

[Csfan1984]

Guessing here but some superstars not rumored to go to C's at deadline but possible trade scenarios to me.

Melo, Knicks are said to want to keep the rebuild going. I believe NYK wanted to clear the slate if dealing Melo and wanted Affalo off the books. This is where Cavs come in, they get Williams and Affalo using Hayward exemption and Mozgov but pulled out. Cavs instead got Frye from Magic. Nets pick, Smart, and Lee could get it done for Melo in the above three team trade.

Harden is very sneaky. If it was Nets pick with IT, and AB dealt that is a fair deal for Rockets. And before you scream you can't trade IT and AB that is the team, think you have Smart, Harden, Crowder, and $ for two max contracts in off season! You do that deal. I believe Rockets wanted to move Lawson before bringing in IT and AB. Rockets found no takers.

Hayward and Favors in the words of Crowder together they are a superstar. It's a package of a lot of prospects and picks moving so likely needed a third team to swap players with as well but if just two teams would be http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gpcx46m of course all 2016 1st and Nets 2018 also go to Jazz.

Marc Gasol for Nets pick, Sully, Lee, Dallas pick, and Rozier. It's pretty clear Grizzlies were sellers at the deadline. However in this three team trade scenario Lee goes to Portland with the Dallas pick. So Grizzlies get Sully, Rozier, Nets pick and a trade exemption. Portland backed out as they took Varjaeo deal.

[number_n9ne]

Butler seems to be the most likely option. My buddy who's a Bull's fan hates the coach and thinks the team is in total disarray. With the Gasol rumors out there and Kirk getting shipped out (Kirk is apparently a beloved Bull by Chicago fans, weird but every team has THAT guy) I can see a reboot coming. Who better to deal with than us?

Something like:
We take Butler and Rose
for
Lee Amir, BRK 16', 18', Boston 16' and a youngin or two?
Gets rid of Rose early while Jimmy's agent is demanding he go to Boston or something.

ps. thanks for editing thread title TP

I doubt Rose goes anywhere. Maybe Butler and Dunleavy (35 year old with 3 years on the contract, yuck) for Lee, Smart, Young, BKN 16 and 18? I'd rather give Rozier than Smart.

I feel like you could do a lot worse than starting a youth movement around Smart, Young, McDermott, Mirotic and a top 5 pick.

[hwangjini_1]

there are rumors they it wasn't any of Love, Griffin, Howard or Horford

Saying it was someone not mentioned already

Maybe Butler, Cousins, Lillard, Hayward  ? who knows

are you referring to this?

Adam Kaufman‏@AdamMKaufman
Info Ainge gave me indicated #Celtics near-deal did NOT involve Horford, Howard, Griffin, Love or other previously reported stars.

[LarBrd33]

I imagine teams were still weary of trading for the Brooklyn pick.  A lot of games left to be played and still time for the Nets to spoil the party a bit. 

My guess is that if we land a top 2 pick, we probably avoid trading it.  If we don't land a top 2 pick, these deals might not be on the table anymore.

[Evantime34]

This seems like the the fireworks comment all over again. Just like when "fireworks" were mentioned, this comment by Ainge has got me really excited for the offseason. If nothing happens I think you will see a lot of unhappy fans just like me.

That being said, if we get Ingram or Simmons, that will be enough to make me happy.

If we can add one of Love, Griffin, Horford, Butler, George or Harden in the offseason i'll be besides myself. The problem is, after these comments I'm kind of expecting it to happen.

[kne]

I know it's unlikely but the Brow would really complete this team.

[walker834]

Guessing here but some superstars not rumored to go to C's at deadline but possible trade scenarios to me.

Melo, Knicks are said to want to keep the rebuild going. I believe NYK wanted to clear the slate if dealing Melo and wanted Affalo off the books. This is where Cavs come in, they get Williams and Affalo using Hayward exemption and Mozgov but pulled out. Cavs instead got Frye from Magic. Nets pick, Smart, and Lee could get it done for Melo in the above three team trade.

Harden is very sneaky. If it was Nets pick with IT, and AB dealt that is a fair deal for Rockets. And before you scream you can't trade IT and AB that is the team, think you have Smart, Harden, Crowder, and $ for two max contracts in off season! You do that deal. I believe Rockets wanted to move Lawson before bringing in IT and AB. Rockets found no takers.

Hayward and Favors in the words of Crowder together they are a superstar. It's a package of a lot of prospects and picks moving so likely needed a third team to swap players with as well but if just two teams would be http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gpcx46m of course all 2016 1st and Nets 2018 also go to Jazz.

Marc Gasol for Nets pick, Sully, Lee, Dallas pick, and Rozier. It's pretty clear Grizzlies were sellers at the deadline. However in this three team trade scenario Lee goes to Portland with the Dallas pick. So Grizzlies get Sully, Rozier, Nets pick and a trade exemption. Portland backed out as they took Varjaeo deal.

Weird thing is i like hayward and gasol better than those other guys.  I don't want narcissistic scorers on this team.

[JOMVP]

Willing to bet it was Marc Gasol. Grizzlies seem to indicate they are going the other way and could have used all those picks. I imagine they want to know exactly where that Brooklyn pick ends up for them end up dealing for it. This is why a draft night trade always made more sense for other teams than the deadline. They can assess where that pick is, who is going to be there, and if their players are worth trading for.

[max215]

I know it's unlikely but the Brow would really complete this team.

Ainge has a lot of assets at his disposal, but I doubt he could afford the Brow.

Bradley, Crowder, all three Brooklyn Picks? NO probably turns that down.

[chambers]

Jahlil Okafur or Marc Gasol.

Ainge has said the thing this team needs is an elite big.

Okafur's D looks shakey in the NBA but the potential is definitely there especially with our bulldogs around him.

[max215]

Willing to bet it was Marc Gasol. Grizzlies seem to indicate they are going the other way and could have used all those picks. I imagine they want to know exactly where that Brooklyn pick ends up for them end up dealing for it. This is why a draft night trade always made more sense for other teams than the deadline. They can assess where that pick is, who is going to be there, and if their players are worth trading for.

Gasol is 7 feet tall and fractured his navicular bone. Are we sure we want him?

[JOMVP]

Willing to bet it was Marc Gasol. Grizzlies seem to indicate they are going the other way and could have used all those picks. I imagine they want to know exactly where that Brooklyn pick ends up for them end up dealing for it. This is why a draft night trade always made more sense for other teams than the deadline. They can assess where that pick is, who is going to be there, and if their players are worth trading for.

Gasol is 7 feet tall and fractured his navicular bone. Are we sure we want him?

Good point. I'd say no based on the uncertainty of that injury, but he certainly filled a need. You are right though, giving up that Brooklyn pick for a 7 footer with that injury is certainly risky.

[chambers]

Celts17pride on RealGm had a good point about the Bulls:

IMO, it was Butler. Bfb hinted at it last night. Probably backed out when they couldn't get the Kings first round pick for Gasol. Had the Bulls gotten that trade to go through (Koufos, Mclemore, and pick), then they go full tank and trade Butler. They would have entered this year's draft with as many as 3 lottery picks.


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