Danny Ainge on Toucher and Rich (Potential "Big Trade" Discussed)

[Clench123]

"Superstar," "Big risk for BOTH teams," "Not Love, Howard, Griffin," "Not someone who's been reported,"...

The only superstar who hasn't been brought up yet in this thread who fits ALL these description is Kevin Durant. 

[Ilikesports17]

Paul George?

[furball]

"Superstar," "Big risk for BOTH teams," "Not Love, Howard, Griffin," "Not someone who's been reported,"...

The only superstar who hasn't been brought up yet in this thread who fits ALL these description is Kevin Durant.

He talked about it laying the ground work for a trade in the future.  Durant is a free agent. 

[Smartacus]

Personally hope it was Marc Gasol. Memphis did have a mini fire sale at the deadline with Lee and Green shipping out, Danny has worked with Memphis a lot lately and it fits his style to try to go all in on a franchise big man.

We could offer the Grizz a package to jump start their rebuild and give Dave Joeger the pieces to construct the team he really wants, instead of the inherited from the old regime team he has right now. Marc Gasol no longer fits their timeline.

[Dino Pitino]

Two of RealGM's insiders are pointing to Butler. Butler is the one that makes the most sense. I wonder what it would have (or will, in the summer) cost us. Nets pick this year, and...? Another Nets pick, too? Just contract filler, or would we have also sent Bradley? Can't imagine trading Isaiah, Jae, or Marcus. Come the summer, if we've landed a top 2 pick, I wonder if we would no longer have interest.

[biggs]

I swear Felger and his fill ins are reading celticsblog! They just magically named all five of the players that we mentioned as possible targets.

Harden
Durant
Butler
George
Hayworth

Their current crew that's on the show know so little about basketball, but the two interviews today were just too juicy to not speculate ( by reading our forums)

[Monkhouse]

Have to think it was either Marc Gasol, Butler, or Griffin.

All of the 3 teams are waiting for their respective rosters to flesh out, Clippers waiting to see how they pan out in the playoffs, Grizzlies had a mini fire sale, and pretty much are seeing whether or not Conley re-signs or bolts. And Butler has plenty of time explicitly stated he doesn't love how the offense is run, and not a huge fan of the coach.

Just trying to see what everyone thinks, but if it was indeed Butler, and he does get traded. How does anyone like the idea of trying to go after Love, and bringing Noah as our starting center with a minute restriction?

I like to think Noah still has some gas left in the tank, but in limited minutes. Of course he can't be our only option at the 5, and he doesn't have any offensive skill that fits in Brad Steven's system with the exception of hustling, rebounding, and his knack for passing with highly skilled court vision. But I certainly would entertain the thought of trying to see if he would take a discount, or a one year player option to boost his value. A team of Butler, Smart, Crowder, and Noah would be a four headed monster on defense lol.

[Dino Pitino]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

[i believe in brad]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

[Dino Pitino]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

LOL, thanks for nipping that in the bud. TP.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Draft night gonna be crazy.....or not.

[Monkhouse]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

LOL, thanks for nipping that in the bud. TP.

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, just wanted to re-iterate and expand on that statement too.

Did some research and people that I talk to occasionally, didn't believe it was Butler. Some of my friends, (one of them actually knows someone on the Chicago front really well,) told me that the idea of Butler being traded right now is definitely not anywhere close to being done until Chicago figures out their game plan. I've been told by the same buddy of mine that conversations about their plan, and since they cannot even offer a max contract to any free agent, the possibility that Butler may or may not be up in the air, (he heard about it from a few friends who too, saw it on the internet,) were probably further away from the truth.

https://twitter.com/Teen_Titans23/status/700737156696903680

[bdm860]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

[Dino Pitino]

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, just wanted to re-iterate and expand on that statement too.

Did some research and people that I talk to occasionally, didn't believe it was Butler. Some of my friends, (one of them actually knows someone on the Chicago front really well,) told me that the idea of Butler being traded right now is definitely not anywhere close to being done until Chicago figures out their game plan. I've been told by the same buddy of mine that conversations about their plan, and since they cannot even offer a max contract to any free agent, the possibility that Butler may or may not be up in the air, (he heard about it from a few friends who too, saw it on the internet,) were probably further away from the truth.

https://twitter.com/Teen_Titans23/status/700737156696903680

Sounds like your peeps are saying that the Chicago front office is...unsure. Which would fit with the situation, given that a trade wasn't consummated. The Bulls are not sure yet. Hence, a trade was not made yet. But all indications from reliable Celtics message board insiders so far = the trade negotiations Ainge is talking about being thisclose were about Butler.

[Monkhouse]

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

LOL, thanks for nipping that in the bud. TP.

Gasol isn't a superstar, and he's out for the year. Makes no sense to trade for him now instead of waiting until the summer. Griffin was rumored, reported, wouldn't have been a surprise. It was Butler. Apparently he deleted a goodbye-to-Chicago tweet the day before the deadline, too. What would this year's lineup have been if we had only sent out picks and pure filler for Butler? Could we have moved Crowder to PF, started Butler at SF? Isaiah, Bradley/Smart, Butler, Crowder, Sully/Amir/Kelly?

Ugh, in a parallel universe, Butler is a Celtic and today talk radio would be full of quips about Stevens getting to "coach Butler again"...maybe that'll just have to wait until June.

It may have been Butler, but I just want to put a stop to the above before it gets thrown around like gospel.  Someone made a fake tweet and tweeted out the picture of it. 

I just found a website with 1 google search and made a fake tweet to show you guys how easy it is, but now I can't figure out how to post a picture haha.

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, just wanted to re-iterate and expand on that statement too.

Did some research and people that I talk to occasionally, didn't believe it was Butler. Some of my friends, (one of them actually knows someone on the Chicago front really well,) told me that the idea of Butler being traded right now is definitely not anywhere close to being done until Chicago figures out their game plan. I've been told by the same buddy of mine that conversations about their plan, and since they cannot even offer a max contract to any free agent, the possibility that Butler may or may not be up in the air, (he heard about it from a few friends who too, saw it on the internet,) were probably further away from the truth.

https://twitter.com/Teen_Titans23/status/700737156696903680

Sounds like your peeps are saying that the Chicago front office is...unsure. Which would fit with the situation, given that a trade wasn't consummated. The Bulls are not sure yet. Hence, a trade was not made yet. But all indications from reliable Celtics message board insiders so far = the trade negotiations Ainge is talking about being thisclose were about Butler.

Both sides are simply speculating though. I just don't want people to get their hopes up assuming that we would get Butler in the future. Personally, I don't think CHI would ever give up their best player anyways, unless Ainge seriously laid out a godfather offer that would strip our core.

As for the last line, eh. Its a toss up.

Getting back on topic at hand, I'm going to throw out a name that has superstar potential, and maybe could've been had for a few picks, Bradley, and maybe someone else.

Bradley Beal.

As to whether or not Marc Gasol isn't a star, (the word superstar is way too loosely thrown around, and I agree Gasol isn't one,) but he certainly is still when healthy a top 3 two way center that can certainly fit in Steven's system, and probably 20+ other teams too.

EDIT: Dino, on second thought, just wanted to let you know I'm not disbelieving or disregarding your statement, I know it may seem like that.

I just don't want other users to feel like we have a chance at getting Butler. During the summer of Love, I was probably one of the users who would keep updating Celticsblog, just waiting for fireworks lol.