Classless Bill Self

[RJ87]

Well, it was a d*ck move.

This.

The OP keeps saying it's not a big deal but given this players past suspension, it's very likely he has a maturity/mentality issue. It does definitely matter because NBA level teams are becoming less tolerable of knuckleheads.

[Forza Juventus]

Part of his job is to get players ready for the nba which means playing top freshman recruits and playing around their skills. If that isn't part of his job then don't make players go to college.

i am next to positive that no where in his contract does it say he is required to prepare his college players for the nba.

I'm not talking about his contract, I'm talking about his job, his responsibility. If you are going to require players to go to college then part of his job and responsibility is to prepare players for the nba. If someone is going to college to become a teacher it is the professors job to not only prepare them for exams, it is also to prepare them to be a teacher.

[Celtics18]

Part of his job is to get players ready for the nba which means playing top freshman recruits and playing around their skills. If that isn't part of his job then don't make players go to college.

i am next to positive that no where in his contract does it say he is required to prepare his college players for the nba.

I'm not talking about his contract, I'm talking about his job, his responsibility. If you are going to require players to go to college then part of his job and responsibility is to prepare players for the nba. If someone is going to college to become a teacher it is the professors job to not only prepare them for exams, it is also to prepare them to be a teacher.

If his job is to prepare guys for the next level (whatever that may be), shouldn't that include guys like Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden as well?

Or should they just be benched in favor of incoming freshmen because they haven't moved on yet?

I agree that part of being a college coach at a school like Kansas is helping to prepare kids for the next level of basketball, but the primary goal is still to win games.

As far as his comments about his player's last second dunk, I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

[Forza Juventus]

Part of his job is to get players ready for the nba which means playing top freshman recruits and playing around their skills. If that isn't part of his job then don't make players go to college.

i am next to positive that no where in his contract does it say he is required to prepare his college players for the nba.

I'm not talking about his contract, I'm talking about his job, his responsibility. If you are going to require players to go to college then part of his job and responsibility is to prepare players for the nba. If someone is going to college to become a teacher it is the professors job to not only prepare them for exams, it is also to prepare them to be a teacher.

If his job is to prepare guys for the next level (whatever that may be), shouldn't that include guys like Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden as well?

Or should they just be benched in favor of incoming freshmen because they haven't moved on yet?

I agree that part of being a college coach at a school like Kansas is helping to prepare kids for the next level of basketball, but the primary goal is still to win games.

As far as his comments about his player's last second dunk, I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

I didn't mean he shouldn't play them. I meant he should be more flexible. I would never play for Bill Self if I was a top recruit.

[chilidawg]

Part of his job is to get players ready for the nba which means playing top freshman recruits and playing around their skills. If that isn't part of his job then don't make players go to college.

i am next to positive that no where in his contract does it say he is required to prepare his college players for the nba.

I'm not talking about his contract, I'm talking about his job, his responsibility. If you are going to require players to go to college then part of his job and responsibility is to prepare players for the nba. If someone is going to college to become a teacher it is the professors job to not only prepare them for exams, it is also to prepare them to be a teacher.

If his job is to prepare guys for the next level (whatever that may be), shouldn't that include guys like Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden as well?

Or should they just be benched in favor of incoming freshmen because they haven't moved on yet?

I agree that part of being a college coach at a school like Kansas is helping to prepare kids for the next level of basketball, but the primary goal is still to win games.

As far as his comments about his player's last second dunk, I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

I didn't mean he shouldn't play them. I meant he should be more flexible. I would never play for Bill Self if I was a top recruit.

Obviously a lot of top recruits disagree with you.

[Forza Juventus]

Part of his job is to get players ready for the nba which means playing top freshman recruits and playing around their skills. If that isn't part of his job then don't make players go to college.

i am next to positive that no where in his contract does it say he is required to prepare his college players for the nba.

I'm not talking about his contract, I'm talking about his job, his responsibility. If you are going to require players to go to college then part of his job and responsibility is to prepare players for the nba. If someone is going to college to become a teacher it is the professors job to not only prepare them for exams, it is also to prepare them to be a teacher.

If his job is to prepare guys for the next level (whatever that may be), shouldn't that include guys like Perry Ellis and Wayne Selden as well?

Or should they just be benched in favor of incoming freshmen because they haven't moved on yet?

I agree that part of being a college coach at a school like Kansas is helping to prepare kids for the next level of basketball, but the primary goal is still to win games.

As far as his comments about his player's last second dunk, I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

I didn't mean he shouldn't play them. I meant he should be more flexible. I would never play for Bill Self if I was a top recruit.

Obviously a lot of top recruits disagree with you.

Top recruits go to Duke too, I wouldn't do that either but whatever. If I knew I was going to play in the nba I would go to a school that wasn't super hard academically and would play to my strengths. In the nba I'll do whatever the veterans say and the coach says but in my forced one year of college where I'm not paid I want to be in more control. I don't want my draft stock to take a hit because my coach has a big ego. I want to advocate for myself.