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Re: The Best shooters have shorter arms.
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2016, 10:13:45 PM »

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For his day McHale had a very good jump shot for a seven footer with a massive wingspan.  Good at the line as well.

Re: The Best shooters have shorter arms.
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2016, 10:15:24 PM »

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This is utter nonsense.  McHale had really long arms and had one of the best shooting seasons ever and later in his career could nail threes.  Most good basketball players have long arms.

Don't mistake us drafting low and taking athletes we hope develop shots into some crappy theory about arm size.

Curry arms are longer than his body by a small bit but they are not short for his body.   Durant has longer arms.  Jordan had a 6'11 " Wingspan.

Some great shooters with long arms on this list.

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/wingspan

I suspect little guys want to believe stuff like this to be true.  If this is true, why no dwarfs or little people in the NBA?


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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2016, 10:32:58 PM »

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This is interesting, I'd love to see a regression run to see what the correlation and a p value is comparing shooting to arm length.

Personally I've always thought that hand size is negatively correlated with shooting.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2016, 10:37:52 PM »

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Leonard is leading the NBA in 3 point %, his wingspan is huge.

He has the craziest wing span to height disparity I've ever seen: 7'3" wingspan and he's only 6'7".
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2016, 10:42:12 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2016, 10:48:43 PM »

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 Celtics 4eva, take a chill pill dude, its just my opinion, but it's actually factual that the best shooters if all time have normal wingspan's.
 And McHale doesn't count cause He's a low post player, that's like saying Shaq was a good shooter because he had a high Fg%.

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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2016, 10:54:21 PM »

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 Who's the best shooter on the Celtics. Isaiah with his 6'1.75" wingspan.

 Who's the best shooting big man on the team.

 Olynyk with a 6'10" wingspan.

 Again only Durant and Kawai have freak wingspan's and can shoot, and only Durant and Ingram at Duke are natural shooters.

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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2016, 10:59:49 PM »

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 Who's the best shooter on the Celtics. Isaiah with his 6'1.75" wingspan.

 Who's the best shooting big man on the team.

 Olynyk with a 6'10" wingspan.

 Again only Durant and Kawai have freak wingspan's and can shoot, and only Durant and Ingram at Duke are natural shooters.

what about AB??  AB imo is a better shooter than IT.

Kevin Garnett was a solid mid range shooter

Being a good shooter has nothing to do with short arms or shorter arms.

Guys like Mark Price, Steve Nash had to be good shooters and practiced shooting until they couldn't anymore. Or else they be out of the league or something

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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2016, 11:00:17 PM »

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 Who's the best shooter on the Celtics. Isaiah with his 6'1.75" wingspan.

 Who's the best shooting big man on the team.

 Olynyk with a 6'10" wingspan.

 Again only Durant and Kawai have freak wingspan's and can shoot, and only Durant and Ingram at Duke are natural shooters.

A 6'2" wingspan on a 5'9" individual means he has very long arms.
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2016, 11:01:17 PM »

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Also some of the best acrobatic shooters had longer arms if you want to play this game.

Like Jordan the way he can shoot over you and bend/twist his arms to avoid getting blocked. 

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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2016, 11:03:14 PM »

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 Who's the best shooter on the Celtics. Isaiah with his 6'1.75" wingspan.

 Who's the best shooting big man on the team.

 Olynyk with a 6'10" wingspan.

 Again only Durant and Kawai have freak wingspan's and can shoot, and only Durant and Ingram at Duke are natural shooters.

A 6'2" wingspan on a 5'9" individual means he has very long arms.


Thomas might now have wide shoulders but does look like has above avg wingspan for his size.

Someone his size with T-rex arms are chris paul. Phil Pressey

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2016, 11:19:21 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2016, 11:27:30 PM »

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 RJ is in the slightly long category about a 4" plus wingspan.

 Huge wingspan's with respect to height are

 Durant plus 7"
 Leonard plus 9"
 Wade plus 7"
 Smart plus 7"
 Rondo plus 8"
 Rozier plus 8"
 Jeremy Lamb plus 7"

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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2016, 11:33:18 PM »

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 Edit RJ is exactly 6" longer, he's only 6'4.5" without shoes. Maybe that's why he is a "shooter" with questionable shooting percentages coming out of college.

 Career .354% from three but .305% senior year.

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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2016, 01:09:27 AM »

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Wait a minute.
"Having long arms" or "big hands" is not a relative, it's an absolute.
So if you could correlate shooting ability to these, you might have a case. The explanation could then have something to do with physics - long/short stroke, leverage etc. But I doubt it (and I'm a trained Mechanical Engineer).
Personally I'm pretty sure you wouldn't find any correlation.

However, "having long/short arms compared to height", how would that correlate? How does the 6'9" arm know it's attached to a 6'5" or a 7'1" body? How would that affect shooting?
Doesn't make any sense to me.

The "big hands argument" and the "being too tall argument" (not mentioned here, but elsewhere) don't make any sense to me either.
Let's assume you give a great NBA free throw shooter (6'6" with normal arms & hands) a WNBA ball and lower the rim 5". That would simulate a taller guy with bigger hands. Let him practice for a week. There is no doubt in my mind he will still be a great free throw shooter.

IMHO, shooting has to do with fine grained, precise body control, which is basically something you are born with. I believe it's mostly a brain-neurological-muscle thing. Some people just seem to have it right from day one, some people never get it after 10 years of practice. It's easy to see who has "it" - their movements and stroke are fluid. Their whole body is involved in what they do. Like when throwing a ball (or shooting a basketball) it's not only their arm that is involved; it's more like a power wave that starts from their feet and moves through their body, arm, wrist and finger. It's perfect coordination, and quite beautiful to watch.

I used to be an amateur youth coach and I've seen many kids develop. Those who got it right at 8, were in 95% of the cases the best ones at 18. Massive practice can get you a long way, but with the same amount of practice, but without that coordination talent, your ceiling is much lower.
Everybody keeps complaining about the poor free throw shooting of guys like Big Ben, Shaq, Dwight and Dre. But just by watching their stiff, non-fluid shooting attempts just tells me that they will never be good even after a million shots. They just don't have that talent. It's not about your height, length or hand size.