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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2016, 09:23:13 AM »

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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2016, 09:24:20 AM »

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Hind-sight is 20-20. The coach didn't make Thomas shoot so poorly. Coach didn't injure Bradley either.
But, Offensive execution at the end of this game was predictable and p--- poor. 

That said, poor shooting nights are going to happen to everyone, the fact is that the C's have nobody to pick up the slack. As we've all stated, this team needs a few more players that can create offense.


Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2016, 09:27:58 AM »

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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2016, 10:33:20 AM »

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this is a tough one. Detroit played smart when they sat Drummond because the Celtics were eating them up inside. when Drummond left Brad had no game plan except to depend on outside shooting which, once again, wasn't there. so far R.J. Hunter and James Young have shown nothing especially as far as being "go to" shooters. and I'm really getting tired of using the term "so far" when talking about James Young!!!

I'm putting the fourth quarter of this game on Brad and a lot of these recent losses on Danny for not getting a dependable shooter in here sooner.
It's very frustrating watching the C's blow these games that should be definite wins.

I didn't watch the game. Why would Drummond being out mean the Celtics were forced to shoot from outside? I would assume Drummond being in would make it harder to score inside, not easier. Is he THAT overrated as a defender? Are Aron Baynes, Tolliver, and Anthony much better at interior defense? That would surprise me.

If you think about it, there actually isn't a plethora of great shooters out there in the league, especially ones that are OK at everything else. In general, teams draft players that have the minimum acceptable size/athleticism to realistically play defense or get their shot off, then hope that they can develop their shot to be respectable.

A lot of so-called sharpshooters in college come in the league and have horrible careers because they can't get open and/or can't defend their position AT ALL.

I guess this is just a long way of saying we have to hope some of our young players improve their shot. I'm ready to give up on Sullinger in terms of shooting because this is year four in a contract year and he has shown little to no improvement. He's only 23 and might figure it out, but why would he put in the effort to try if he hasn't already? A long-term deal would just make him more fat and lazy.

Olynyk is a player who would seem to be underachieving in terms of outside shooting. I rarely see his outside shot attempts bothered due to his height and the fact that he's usually defended by an interior player. Also, he's so hesitant he'll pass up 3s if it seems like a defender might come close to defending it. I see from his stats he's shooting 39% from 3 which is respectable, but it just seems like from games I've watched he should make more of them.


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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2016, 10:53:51 AM »

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On a night when Avery Bradley's injured and your best offensive player goes 6-20, you're not going to get much perimeter shooting. Hunter and Young aren't ready. Be patient. This is what the team is right now.

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What's interesting is that without 2 or 3 of our terrible losses to scrub teams, we'd be sitting 2nd/3rd in the East with DeMare Carroll out for knee surgery...

This second half of the season is going to be very fun, but growing pains like tonight or the Brooklyn/Lakers losses are a given in any rebuild project like ours.
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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2016, 10:59:56 AM »

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this is a tough one. Detroit played smart when they sat Drummond because the Celtics were eating them up inside. when Drummond left Brad had no game plan except to depend on outside shooting which, once again, wasn't there. so far R.J. Hunter and James Young have shown nothing especially as far as being "go to" shooters. and I'm really getting tired of using the term "so far" when talking about James Young!!!

I'm putting the fourth quarter of this game on Brad and a lot of these recent losses on Danny for not getting a dependable shooter in here sooner.
It's very frustrating watching the C's blow these games that should be definite wins.

I didn't watch the game. Why would Drummond being out mean the Celtics were forced to shoot from outside? I would assume Drummond being in would make it harder to score inside, not easier. Is he THAT overrated as a defender? Are Aron Baynes, Tolliver, and Anthony much better at interior defense? That would surprise me.

If you think about it, there actually isn't a plethora of great shooters out there in the league, especially ones that are OK at everything else. In general, teams draft players that have the minimum acceptable size/athleticism to realistically play defense or get their shot off, then hope that they can develop their shot to be respectable.

A lot of so-called sharpshooters in college come in the league and have horrible careers because they can't get open and/or can't defend their position AT ALL.

I guess this is just a long way of saying we have to hope some of our young players improve their shot. I'm ready to give up on Sullinger in terms of shooting because this is year four in a contract year and he has shown little to no improvement. He's only 23 and might figure it out, but why would he put in the effort to try if he hasn't already? A long-term deal would just make him more fat and lazy.

Olynyk is a player who would seem to be underachieving in terms of outside shooting. I rarely see his outside shot attempts bothered due to his height and the fact that he's usually defended by an interior player. Also, he's so hesitant he'll pass up 3s if it seems like a defender might come close to defending it. I see from his stats he's shooting 39% from 3 which is respectable, but it just seems like from games I've watched he should make more of them.

The Drummond thing was because they kept driving at him and then dumping the ball down to his man when he came to block the shot.  It's why Amir had such a good game, he also kept grabbing Offensive rebounds when Drummond left him.  When Drummond came out that option left. 

As far as who do I blame..I blame no one.  They had an off night where no one could hit a shot.  Hell, how many freaking free throws did they miss???  It happens.  It's why great teams don't go undefeated.  Now, when you are not a great team having games like this sucks but it's still not unavoidable. 

Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2016, 11:04:43 AM »

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The team...... The team lost not a player. If someone was cold then someone should step up and if they can't/don't then we lose. Blaming one person that isn't a superstar is not right. If we have LJ, KD, Blake or some other star then you could say them. For this team to win everyone has to play good and share the ball. Not just one person have a great game and the other slack.

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2016, 11:18:45 AM »

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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2016, 11:28:16 AM »

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According to Forsberg, they settled for too many outside shots and needed to drive more. I can see that, but at the same time we don't exactly have great drivers besides Isaiah and sometimes Turner.

I think that it just comes down to our shooting isn't good enough to be sustainable every game. Sometimes we're hot, sometimes we aren't. If the defense isn't creating TOs, the opportunities for good transition shots decreases.

When the shots aren't falling, the Celtics do not have a reliable scoring option that they can rely on to get them through those cold spells. It's a simple thought but one that I keep coming back to when I watch games.

Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2016, 11:34:12 AM »

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2016, 11:38:12 AM »

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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2016, 11:55:18 AM »

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Ainge.  Time to go for more proven offense.  Maybe Ryan Anderson instead of some of the kids.
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Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2016, 12:05:11 PM »

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On a night when Avery Bradley's injured and your best offensive player goes 6-20, you're not going to get much perimeter shooting. Hunter and Young aren't ready. Be patient. This is what the team is right now.
TP for this.  Guys miss shots.  Ainge is doing fine.  Patience!

Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2016, 12:12:55 PM »

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not resigning gi gi--- as 3pt specialist-his d has to be as good as youngs-
this is sort of tongue in cheek but both our draftees need to hit the open three
 i am a serious rj fan he hit 50% of threes up in maine-

Re: Who do you blame for Pistons loss???
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2016, 12:22:39 PM »

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Reggie Jackson.  The guy owned the Celtics in the 4th quarter.

This is a pretty good starting point.  Isaiah was good in the 4th, but Reggie was better.  So long as we have Isaiah out there we're gonna give up some big quarters to larger point guards.
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