Ingram is starting to make this look like a two player draft instead of a one player draft. Good stuff.
Even though I called it 2 years ago, it sucks having everyone talking about my guy and it gets me scared that we will miss him in the draft. Karl Towns flashbacks all-over again.
I get emotionally invested in these players and then they jump and I have to see them get drafted before our pick........it's very hard and causes conflict with other posters when they call me crazy for "trying to predict the future" and "I'm obsessed with potential"
Yea pretty much. It's ridiculous to make a move past offseason because there's someone you like in the '17 draft its stuff like that that makes people say you can't predict the future.
I've left more than enough proof to show who I picked and that it was years before they played a college game. I got crap from you and others for mentioning Ingrams name, and I mentioned it after every post because I knew this situation would happen, did the same thing with Towns.
There is a big differance between saying "I like so and so" and saying "This is the most underated player and he will be a top pick even though he is ranked 8th or 15th.
If you want to hold me to the fire: Dennis Smith Jr is who I predicted 2 years ago to be the top pick in 17'.
Anyways I'm sick of making bold predictions and being right aszll the time. How about you try? I bet you like some players but have no idea or time to scout them out or develop your own method. Please do post the next superstar 2-3 years in advance, at the end of each of your posts.
You seem to have a good mind about the draft sure.
I still think that calling it early is fairly meaningless. I mean great you picked who was gonna go # 1 really early thats genuinely impressive. I have no problem with that. I dont even try to pretend I have real opinions on guys untill they get to college.
My problem has always been that you tend to lay out your plans like this.
Make move x this year, then in 2016 we select Brandon Ingram, the next season we select Thon Maker then make move Y, in the 2017 draft we add Dennis Smith Jr. then we have
Smith Jr
Smart/Hunter
then Ingram and Crowder can play the 3/4 combo
and then Maker.
In terms of scouting guys I think you are great I just think its a waste of time to name specific guys to pick in like 2 years. I mean Philly has tanked as hard as anyone and havent been able to get their hands on Wiggins or Towns.
Also, Ill give you Ingram, who was ranked #3 as early as this september, but last year was closer to 9-14.
However Towns was the #1 prospect for 2015 freshman when he reclassified to 2014 and became #3 (this was in December of 2012) behind Mudiay who got hurt and went to china which are pretty extreme circumstances and Okafor. You are no genius for finding him. Once again, props on Ingram, but relax on the I was on the Towns bandwagon before all of you schtick.
EDIT:
rereading my post, I think it comes off to aggressive. Basically i think you have conflated people "giving you crap" for your scouting and for the nature of your posts. In fact I dont look years into the future at all for drafts and I honestly took your scout report as all I knew about the guy. What I didnt like about your posts was that I feel like you often predicted the future in a sense calling for a very specific plan of action over the next 3 years and my gripe was: You cant predict this! maybe you can predict who will be the best prospect, but you cant predict how the lotto balls will fall, or where we will be in the draft, or if a player will suffer a massive injury or any of so many things. I mean how many teams "tanked for Wiggins"? a lot of teams neither named the Cavs nor the TWolves and none of them got him. Even now, the most expert mock drafts will be radically different from what the final draft board looks like.
so, final recap: your scouting = good(great even) job
your incredibly detailed 3 year predictions = a waste of time.
your cockiness = annoying
DRaftexpress and nbadraft.net had Towns going 15th or not even being one and done when his jr year tapes started coming out. Scouts were not high on Towns because they were concerned with his lower body and knees( think how Myles Turner dropped/was ripped apart because of lower body issues and possible injuries....but Towns did not run funny).
Kelly Oubre, Cliff Alexander Stanley Johnson Mario Henzoja Kristaps WCS were ahead of him and Myles Turner was actually the overall number 1 pick for some time as well, but that changed between Cliff and even Oubre at times. Also a couple ppl PM'ed me to talk about Towns and why he was not ranked higher, this was the summer going in to the 2014 draft. Maybe you saw something else or idk, but it was crazy to a few of us that the guy we saw in the videos with this crazy unique skill set and he won gatorade player of the year lol was not ranked on draftexpress and was only 15 on .net, we all contributed it to rumors about his knees/lower body....and hoped the celts could nab him especially because we hoped UK's frontcourt had older/stronger/bigger guys. I hoped the same for Ingram because of his lack of weight and such a young age, was hoping we could nab him like 6th because I was hoping he would struggle because of his strength and age....again screwed
btw I pick/"fall in love" with players that at the time were realistically draftable.....then I hope to hell they do not rise in the draft all that much.
I think you are mostly referring to a thread along the lines of "Build a dynasty through the next 3 years". LOL I needed to put a warning "do not read if you are not of the opinion that we should tank", Why do people need to even put up warnings its like Student Affairs warning students about micro-aggressions because a costume may offend them.
Honestly everyone is right I have been posting a certain way lately.
And the reason/tipping point was when a new ish forum poster made a thread about tanking(before I read it I was like well here we go, hope he put a warning about micro-aggressions and/or trigger warning). I was disgusted how members on CB treated this new poster and even called him a BAD CELTIC'S FAN and said he was crazy and that he really should not post or learn how to post. This was coming from posters who had 18k+ posts and I can only imagine how crappy that could feel.
Anyways I messaged him and said to keep his head up it happens to me all the time and we all need to stick together. I also said that a few of the posters ripping him were some that were complete hypocrites and ripped me and they needed to be reminded of it.
don't watch baseball, football, hockey, or play video games. love the Celtics and its hard not to look into drafts and etc when the season is out. love basketball and evaluating prospects, the history of the draft, looking into the future....hence my user name.
Your completely right about my posts and that I am more about the future than right now.
I talk to people that are not on these forums and a good amount of fans do not like the treadmill. I guess I stick up hard for my viewpoint bc as posters I think we make up less than 10% of CB and we actually have some form of responsibility to get our points across in order to speak for they people who literally just come on here to get Celts news and read the posts.
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