We Need to Make Some Moves!

[Chris22]

Lopez scored 30 points.
Should of played Zeller on Lopez more.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Lopez scored 30 points.
Should of played Zeller on Lopez more.

Lopez can do that, he is actually good. Joe scored 20, we win by 6 if he's held to season avg. Heck, hold him to 16 and we win and that's still 5pts more than his avg.!

[obnoxiousmime]

If an Isaiah Thomas type deal comes along, Ainge will do it. But he's not going to go for someone who's not young, not on a flexible deal, or not significantly better than what we already have. In fact, I think the chances are better we are sellers at the deadline, though we don't have a lot of valuable expendable assets. Zeller's value has dropped from not playing, Lee hasn't show anything, and Sullinger has regressed/stayed the same. We might have to just take our lumps and eventually buy out Lee after the deadline, then see what Sullinger and Zeller demand on the free market. The chances of either being re-signed don't look great now, unless they take below-market deals.

[CelticsFanFromNYC]

no rush grasshopper.. im sure theres millions of moves to make. DA thinking long term. we did all those mini moves last season.

[jmen788]

I wonder if all the people trashing getting Evans or Gallo trashed getting IT last year as he isn't a "superstar." But he's still very good and better than anything else we have.

Right now it seems like we are building a team like the Hawks last year - no superstar but a great a around team - at least until a star becomes available.

I personally would rather add Evans or Gallo which would greatly make our team better.

[chambers]

I wonder if all the people trashing getting Evans or Gallo trashed getting IT last year as he isn't a "superstar." But he's still very good and better than anything else we have.

Right now it seems like we are building a team like the Hawks last year - no superstar but a great a around team - at least until a star becomes available.

I personally would rather add Evans or Gallo which would greatly make our team better.

That's the point though. You want to add guys who make us more like the Hawks, and tie up cap room with medicore guys that are never going to be stars.

You can't compare IT to Gallo or Tyreke because of his awesome salary. Would anyone want IT if he were being paid $15 million a year or 18 million a year? Hell no. He's a bargain. Tyreke and Gallo are not. They're good, but not great players, and we are overloaded at every position with guys like this right now.

[Rosco917]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

[jmen788]

I wonder if all the people trashing getting Evans or Gallo trashed getting IT last year as he isn't a "superstar." But he's still very good and better than anything else we have.

Right now it seems like we are building a team like the Hawks last year - no superstar but a great a around team - at least until a star becomes available.

I personally would rather add Evans or Gallo which would greatly make our team better.

That's the point though. You want to add guys who make us more like the Hawks, and tie up cap room with medicore guys that are never going to be stars.

You can't compare IT to Gallo or Tyreke because of his awesome salary. Would anyone want IT if he were being paid $15 million a year or 18 million a year? Hell no. He's a bargain. Tyreke and Gallo are not. They're good, but not great players, and we are overloaded at every position with guys like this right now.

I agree with the IT salary part. That was the icing on top. We also have Crowder and Bradley at team-friendly deals. But we gotta keep in mind the cap is rising and we don't want to be like the 76ers and not be spending money. This doesn't mean to spend it terribly either. BUT I think Evans is worth the money and so is Gallo - based on the new salary cap. Even with one of them we would still have money to add two max players.

[jmen788]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

[suitednzooted]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

[jmen788]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

Thanks for mentioning names for targets! I asked and was waiting for someone to list some names haha.

Barnes is definitely someone I would "overpay" for, but I'm worried Golden State simply won't trade him. I'd also love Favors, but same situation with him.

[Csfan1984]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

I can see Barnes, Whiteside and Favors being off season targets. 2 are U/FAs at least. Favors will take a Brooklyn pick but C's aren't moving that unless it's outside the top 5.

[suitednzooted]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

I can see Barnes, Whiteside and Favors being off season targets. 2 are U/FAs at least. Favors will take a Brooklyn pick but C's aren't moving that unless it's outside the top 5.

Yeah Favors would be hard to get but if we could get him it'd be intriguing.I think he'd be perfect in Green. But I'm not prepared to trade BKN pick at all! I have a good feeling about it. And TP to you Csfan for an old post about drafting richaun Holmes at 33. We couldve used him lol.

[suitednzooted]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

Thanks for mentioning names for targets! I asked and was waiting for someone to list some names haha.

Barnes is definitely someone I would "overpay" for, but I'm worried Golden State simply won't trade him. I'd also love Favors, but same situation with him.

Lol no problem man. I think about these things at nauseum! And yeah I don't think GS feels they have any needs so I can't see it happening. It'd have to be from a bad team so I think maybe a Ben McLemore or Gorgui Dieng.

[spikelovetheCelts]

We can't play a whole team of guards and small forwards.    I think we need a competent C or PF in a trade.    Those guys are not easy to get but I feel that is what we need and one that can score some.

I'm gonna agree with the above, this team is woefully weak at PF and Center positions. Too many slow non-athletic, inconsistent, bigs that can't defend. Opposing teams attack us in our soft underbelly too often. We give up too many key offensive boards leading to second, and third attempts at scoring.

When I look at our bigs, I see no hope of improvement, their all end of the bench players, that a coach "plugs in" to see if they'll get you anything tonight. Other than Mickey, who is long, athletic, active, and very green, who for some mysterious reason never gets minutes in a real games.

     

I agree on this as well. Our bigs aren't very good. BUT we still need to improve wherever we can, and even if we got Evans or Gallo, they can both play the 3, and Crowder could play the 4 in small ball lineups. For getting bigs, we need to hope we get one in the draft or a good big becomes available via trade. But we can't wait forever and stay where we are with this roster or we won't even get out of the first round.

No to Gallo and Martin. They aren't necessarily the playmakers we need. Tyreke Evans is intriguing but I agree with others who think he's not really the star we need. But we can't just wait on a big star come to Boston to your point. I just think we should take a chance on young talent, and I'm not talking about the draft. I have a few guys I was thinking could find their game here:

Harrison Barnes(SF)
Jeremy Lamb(SG) -avg about 13ppg off CHA bench
Bobby Portis(PF)- wed obv need to get rid of Lee and maybe Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside(C)- hard to acquire but worth investment avg like 18 ppg 15 RPG and 4 bpg
Alec Burks (SG)
Derrick Favors(PF)
Festus Ezeli(C)

Whiteside is in a contract year so we have to wait and see if they all get a deal done but Lamb is only $7mil/ yr for 4 years, whereas Burks is at $10mil/yr. I know I'm wishing on a star but Gobert has to get paid next yr so Utah may want to unload someone and Barnes may be the odd man out in GS.

Thanks for mentioning names for targets! I asked and was waiting for someone to list some names haha.

Barnes is definitely someone I would "overpay" for, but I'm worried Golden State simply won't trade him. I'd also love Favors, but same situation with him.

Lol no problem man. I think about these things at nauseum! And yeah I don't think GS feels they have any needs so I can't see it happening. It'd have to be from a bad team so I think maybe a Ben McLemore or Gorgui Dieng.

Golden State is looking for strech 4. KO and a pick for Barnes. Can they pay Barnes and Bogut this summer.. They are going to have to make som choices.