John Henson=good contract/low risk and high reward(IT trade similarities)

[Future Celtics Owner]

Edit: because of possible misconceptions I changed "low price" in the title to reflect what I meant: good contract now and going forward. That is an opinion, not fact. But if John produces with more minutes, then ya it will be a team friendly contract.

Henson has been mentioned on this board many times but not as much because his playing time has significantly been undermined by Monroe and a team that can not space the floor.

Here is his profile http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/John-Henson-5236/
Here is his eff. based on bpg:
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2016/Averages/Qualified/blocks/All/desc/1/Regular_Season

Carlos Boozer is now probably joining the team, I guess they like him. But Henson was extended for 4 years 44mil this summer and I beleieve that he does not begin earning the 11mil until next season. He turns 25 tomorrow, the 28th, and IMO he could put up very good numbers and added value because of his contract if he was in the right system.

Now he is not perfect for our system: shoots 55% ft and can't stretch the floor, but he can do everything else we need and given more time and in our system he could become a great asset in a trade; especially at only $11mil a year.

And who knows if he has reached his ceiling or if he will be entering his prime. But I do believe he should be looked at hard because of the possible low ask to get him and at this point IMO he is what he is and will not turn into a dud...maybe even improve.

Also would be insurance for Sully and may help with negotiations if things turn out well.

He is 6'11'' with shoes, 7'5'' wingspan, 9'4'' standing reach.

[obnoxiousmime]

Unfortunately the Bucks have no urgency to deal him. He's signed long-term, is young, and the Bucks don't have cap pressure. I suppose it's possible Kidd will get impatient again and want to make a move sooner rather than later, in which case they will definitely be looking for shooting and likely ask for Bradley or Thomas.

[BDeCosta26]

Unfortunately the Bucks have no urgency to deal him. He's signed long-term, is young, and the Bucks don't have cap pressure. I suppose it's possible Kidd will get impatient again and want to make a move sooner rather than later, in which case they will definitely be looking for shooting and likely ask for Bradley or Thomas.

And they'd never get either of them. John Henson is a very athletic shot-blocker/rebounder who does very little else well and can't shoot outside 10 feet. They're paying him 11 million dollars, while were paying Bradley and Thomas between 7-8 million each and they are significantly better players at their position.

I like Henson and I used to think I'd want him here but not for 4 years at 11 million per. That's insane money for a guy like him. Ainge has done very well setting himself up with good contracts and lots of cap space available. Henson isn't good enough to trade good players (Thomas, Bradley, etc.) for, nevermind tying up 11 million in cap room for the next three seasons.

The most they could get from the C's would likely be Lee's (or Johnson's) expiring, maybe Jerebko and an early 2nd. I don't see why he'd be worth more than that. He's not a guy worth over 10 million, that's for sure.

[saltlover]

In addition to it being unlikely the Bucks would deal him so shortly after having signed him to an extension, he'd be difficult to trade for until next summer.  Because of the extension, it is very hard to fit his salary into a trade.  He counts as about $9.4 million incoming salary, but only just under $3 million outgoing salary.  Accordingly, the Celtics would have to send out $6.2 million to acquire him, but Bucks could only take on $4.6 million for trading him.  This means in addition to compensating the Bucks, you'd need to send things to a third team to take the extra salary, or construct a much more complex trade with several players going between the two teams.  John Henson is a neat-enough player, but he's not one worth reshaping half the roster for.

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The OP specializes in proposals for players their team has no logical reason to trade. Newsflash: signing Carlos Boozer is not a reason why a team trades a core piece they spent $44mil on a few months ago.

[Future Celtics Owner]

The OP specializes in proposals for players their team has no logical reason to trade. Newsflash: signing Carlos Boozer is not a reason why a team trades a core piece they spent $44mil on a few months ago.

I don't really specialize in trade proposals, if anything I would say most of my posts are draft and prospect/scouting related.

Anyways, the Bucks also spent a lot of money on a guy named Greg Monroe. I can not speculate if they will keep him long-term. I can however state a fact, that being both Monroe and Henson can not play on the floor together because of spacing issues and that comes from both coaches.

He's playing 15 min a game and it would be less if Monroe was not out for a period of time.

[Future Celtics Owner]

In addition to it being unlikely the Bucks would deal him so shortly after having signed him to an extension, he'd be difficult to trade for until next summer.  Because of the extension, it is very hard to fit his salary into a trade.  He counts as about $9.4 million incoming salary, but only just under $3 million outgoing salary.  Accordingly, the Celtics would have to send out $6.2 million to acquire him, but Bucks could only take on $4.6 million for trading him.  This means in addition to compensating the Bucks, you'd need to send things to a third team to take the extra salary, or construct a much more complex trade with several players going between the two teams.  John Henson is a neat-enough player, but he's not one worth reshaping half the roster for.

TP. I can understand your rational. I know you can agree that AB and IT's 7/8$mil contracts are more about when they were signed and do not reflect current day value. Some posters comparing Henson at 11mil and AB/IT at 7-8mil are either not informed or in another universe. The cap is going up, and will continue to do so. So 11mil could be a great deal(depending on the player) because contracts have gone up.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Unfortunately the Bucks have no urgency to deal him. He's signed long-term, is young, and the Bucks don't have cap pressure. I suppose it's possible Kidd will get impatient again and want to make a move sooner rather than later, in which case they will definitely be looking for shooting and likely ask for Bradley or Thomas.

And they'd never get either of them. John Henson is a very athletic shot-blocker/rebounder who does very little else well and can't shoot outside 10 feet. They're paying him 11 million dollars, while were paying Bradley and Thomas between 7-8 million each and they are significantly better players at their position.

I like Henson and I used to think I'd want him here but not for 4 years at 11 million per. That's insane money for a guy like him. Ainge has done very well setting himself up with good contracts and lots of cap space available. Henson isn't good enough to trade good players (Thomas, Bradley, etc.) for, nevermind tying up 11 million in cap room for the next three seasons.

The most they could get from the C's would likely be Lee's (or Johnson's) expiring, maybe Jerebko and an early 2nd. I don't see why he'd be worth more than that. He's not a guy worth over 10 million, that's for sure.

Avery and IT were signed before the newer cap rise. So 7-8 million then is not the same as today.