Celtics have made david lee available in trade talks

[CelticSooner]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

[fairweatherfan]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

[CelticSooner]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

Wallace was content to rot on the bench tho. Lee wants to play which is a problem.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

TP. I think the idea was that we could get an even higher expiring salary that would also be more productive on the court.  Since our whole team is set up to try to make moves this offseason,* we would have 15 million freeing up instead of 10 from one player.  Lee certainly knows how to play too, so we're not even really missing Wallace's player coaching, which was actually really good.  I'd like to bring him back as an assistant coach in the near future. 

*I know people think we're a playoff team right now, but if that is true then it's barely true.  Most teams are more talented than ours, but we just have really good coaching and a pretty decent bench.  We have a ton of expiring money and a really high first round pick this year, plus the cap is going to shoot up.  It really seems that Danny positioned us to be competitive starting next year and the fact that we're doing as well as we are is a surprise that isn't part of the plan.

[Hemingway]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

TP. I think the idea was that we could get an even higher expiring salary that would also be more productive on the court.  Since our whole team is set up to try to make moves this offseason,* we would have 15 million freeing up instead of 10 from one player.  Lee certainly knows how to play too, so we're not even really missing Wallace's player coaching, which was actually really good.  I'd like to bring him back as an assistant coach in the near future. 

Thats like getting a keg of beer and the guy tells you there is a 50 dollar deposit and you say, make it 100 so I get more money back.

[PhoSita]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

I still dislike the move, if only because it meant we were gonna give him an extended run to rehab his value instead of giving consistent time to other, younger guys. 

I understand it was mostly a move to get a larger contract to use in a potential big time trade, but that always seemed far-fetched to me.  Danny's rebuild philosophy has always been more about setting up for a big trade than developing younger guys.

[CelticGuardian]

he was giving his opportunity by CBS, he started the first few games with Zeller and they both played themselves out of the lineup... if Lee wants to play it will have to be for the 76ers, I just don't see any team starting him... he needs to be realistic here

[Who]

Trading for him was probably a bad idea in hindsight. He makes $15 mill a year. Not sure who would give anything up. You take a pick if you can get it at this point.

Friendly reminder that the only thing we gave up was Gerald Wallace, who was and is worth even less.

I liked having G-Wallace on the bench. Gave Boston another SF with legitimate size and could play small ball PF. Boston are lacking in this type of option off their bench when Turner or Crowder are out for a game. Forced to play small guards at SF (Hunter, J.Young) or a PF (Jerebko) there.

I preferred having that option on the bench than what D-Lee provides the team. Boston has more than enough big man contributions from Sully, Olynyk, Jerebko, Amir, Zeller and Mickey. I'd rather have G-Wallace covering that hole than have D-Lee here.

I still dislike the move, if only because it meant we were gonna give him an extended run to rehab his value instead of giving consistent time to other, younger guys. 

I understand it was mostly a movie to get a larger contract to use in a potential big time trade, but that always seemed far-fetched to me.  Danny's rebuild philosophy has always been more about setting up for a big trade than developing younger guys.

Plus, this. I'd much rather give playing time to younger guys.

[MJohnnyboy]

How about David Lee for Ty Lawson? Exchange disappointments? Celtics have had interest before, Lawson is a playmaker, and Lawson is young enough to be a reclamation project under Brad. Not to mention Lee could net something bigger for Houston.

Plus Lawson would fit snugly into a team full of undersized guards. Am I right?

[Moranis]

Lee seems like he is only going to be a trade for a max contract type player as the salary filler.  I mean who else could possible acquire or want him at that money.  I mean just looking around the league at contracts that are basically expiring that you could trade for Lee and there is almost no one that makes sense.  And no one is going to give up any real value. 

I mean the only player I could think of was Joe Johnson.  Lee and Jerekbo for Johnson.  Nets save some more money and get 2 players instead of 1 (which helps their depth problem some).  Boston gets better roster functionality as Johnson at least theoretically better fills a position of need and frankly he is still better than Lee and Jerekbo at this point (though Johnson is far from the player he once was).

So there you go

Lee and Jerekbo for Joe Johnson

[Endless Paradise]

How about David Lee for Ty Lawson? Exchange disappointments? Celtics have had interest before, Lawson is a playmaker, and Lawson is young enough to be a reclamation project under Brad. Not to mention Lee could net something bigger for Houston.

Plus Lawson would fit snugly into a team full of undersized guards. Am I right?

This isn't a bad trade for either team, but let's not fool ourselves: if the best Houston can get for Ty Lawson is David Lee, they're not going to then "net something bigger" for Lee.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I know people look at the Lee trade as being about his contract, but I think it was that and much more. I really believe we would have kept GW if it was only about the contract. Lee was brought in b/c he seems like a player CBS wants for his system, he raved about Lee's passing ability and how he could score inside and RB, he still does these things just not consistently and of course, and he still sucks on defense. Add what they thought he could provide on the floor and off, I can see why we would send out a player who COULDN'T PLAY for him. Also, why does everyone keep assuming that GW would be fine sitting on a bench for another season, the guy has pride, how would you feel? I bet people think about the money, but I'm sure for a player like GW at that point it was secondary because he has already been paid millions and the way he played you could tell he would do ANYTHING to be out there playing! This trade was a win-win for all parties involved IMO, even if we just let Lee walk.

[PhoSita]

How about David Lee for Ty Lawson? Exchange disappointments? Celtics have had interest before, Lawson is a playmaker, and Lawson is young enough to be a reclamation project under Brad. Not to mention Lee could net something bigger for Houston.

Plus Lawson would fit snugly into a team full of undersized guards. Am I right?

let's just run out lineups comprised entirely of guards.  Smart can play center once he's healthy.

[Granath]

her per minute numbers are pretty solid.  He can still average 18 and 8 for a team.  Maybe a team that needs a decent power forward will grab him.

Which teams are lacking at that position?

No, he can't. If he could average 18/8 he'd be starting for the Celtics.

This is NOT the David Lee of 3 years ago, which is what I've been saying all along. He doesn't have the lift anymore nor does he have the physical stamina to play the 35 mins a night it would take to rack up those stats. He might have a good game from time to time but at this stage in his career he's a 10th man off the bench, a guy who plays 15-20 minutes per night who knows his way around the game. That's it. That's what you're going to get.

As for him being available, he was always available. He's simply an expiring salary who had a chance of contributing more than Crash could. End of story.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

How about David Lee for Ty Lawson? Exchange disappointments? Celtics have had interest before, Lawson is a playmaker, and Lawson is young enough to be a reclamation project under Brad. Not to mention Lee could net something bigger for Houston.

Plus Lawson would fit snugly into a team full of undersized guards. Am I right?

let's just run out lineups comprised entirely of guards.  Smart can play center once he's healthy.

LOL!


Lawson is not just another disappointment though. Lee isn't as good as some of us hoped but, people say he's a good person/mentor and doesn't intentionally put other lives in danger repeatedly! Lawson has serious issues he needs to address and our players are too young, I wouldn't want him to influence any of them or for him to destroy our chemistry.